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Ancient Egyptians DNA is Less Sub Saharan than modern Egyptian DNA.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] And BTW, Keita—one of the most cited academics here—doesn't support translating pan-African ideas to genetics. Those who are doing this are on their own and putting their ignorance on display. No reputable and capable geneticist supports this. If I'm wrong, I'd like to see names. [/qb][/QUOTE]Why is it "Pan Africanism" to say that genetic lineages that arose in Africa are logically called "African"? So is that it? Using the term "African" is a political agenda and evil huh? Really? But good old Eurasia can be used everywhere right? Thats cool huh? [/qb][/QUOTE]I already clarified what I meant. You try to conjure up some sort of objection every time you're confronted with data that shows deep divisions in African ancestry. [/qb][/QUOTE]Deep divisions in [b]AFRICAN[/b] DNA. You said it yourself and made my point for me. I don't even see what you are debating. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] You keep denying it but it's obvious. This is why you refuse to apply common conventions when its inconvenient. For instance, when it comes to Europe, you insist that farmer colonists aren't European simply because they moved there.[/qb][/QUOTE]Again putting words in my mouth when it suits you. I never said that. I said that labels should be used in a way that is consistent. A population of Africans migrating out of Africa don't become "Non African" one generation after leaving with no other humans in the region they settle. There needs to be a consistent way for making such distinctions. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] But when SSA groups move into the Sahara some time before EEF enter Europe, you want to pretend they're Saharan and not Sub-Saharan in ancestry and origin. Somehow, moving around the Sahara should discourage people from treating groups according to their origin. You also have a strange aversion to others describing these groups as Sub-Saharan in ancestry, even trying to get others to abandon the term. But, of course, you will keep Europe, South Asia, etc. as valid subregions within Eurasia. And of course, you'll just deny all of the above and keep asking the same questions that have nothing to do with what I said: "Whu you mean? I can't say African?" and, "is African a dirty word now?" :rolleyes: [/qb][/QUOTE]Swenet stop trying to make up straw men by pretending to speak for me. I can speak for myself. This is simply absurdity for no logical reason. What on earth does Saharan vs Sub Saharan have to do with EEF? Why is it even relevant? Why is that some "special" distinction you keep bringing up? Why is "African" not enough when you are comparing DNA from WITHIN Africa to DNA OUTSIDE of Africa? You keep saying this over and over again and no matter how much you say it, it still doesn't make sense. EEF had some African DNA lineages as part of their ancestry. Does it MATTER what part of Africa those DNA lineages came from? Is the statement not true somehow if those lineages came from a certain part of Africa? Of course not. You are simply beating a dead horse. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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