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[QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Punos_Rey: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Oshun: [qb] ^^^ you posted an interesting link in another thread: http://www.academia.edu/8826399/Southern_Canaan_as_an_Egyptian_Protodynastic_Colony So the Canaan was a colony in Egypt from predynastic times and absorbed much of the culture of Egypt by the predynastic era? So then... by the time Canan establishes it's independence and is based in Faiyum, how distinguishable would they have even been culturally? [/qb][/QUOTE]Colony in Egypt and based in Faiyum? Isn't Canaan in the Levant? On another note just some more thoughts I've been having about the abstract. I believe a poster mentioned one of the beliefs here that the AE being seen as an increasingly less SSA population over time being challenged by this data. Well thinking about it why not opt for more of a flux in SSA ancestry over time and by location. Abusir is basically right at the neck of the Delta, which is also the immediate point of contact between Egypt, the Levant, and the Mediterranean. So I see no reason why one wouldn't expect less SSA ancestry at this location especially considering the admixture we know happened. As to why there was a post-Roman increase in SSA ancestry, thats could be explained by the Saharan Slave Trade where large numbers of SSA slaves were sold into slavery in Northern Africa including Egypt and resulting in an increase.(compared to much smaller movements prevjously and no different from the Barbary Slave Trade where Europeans were sold into slavery into North Africa) Maybe this has been brought up already and I'm just rambling. Just a thought. [/qb][/QUOTE]Here are a few issue with that. 1 - We would at least expct to see a small snapshot of native North East African diversity in the background. Think if we got Ethiopian Ancient mtDNA from 3000 years ago and there was a full absence of [URL=http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/L3x_zpsc404bb88.png]L3x[/URL], [URL=http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/L5_zps5219409d.png]L5[/URL], [URL=http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/L4_zps882a7a6c.png]L4[/URL], [URL=http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/m1_zpseea25ab9.png]M1[/URL], [URL=http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/L3i_zpsed646ba2.png]L3i[/URL], [URL=http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/l3f_zps33ed2b05.png]L3f[/URL], [URL=http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/L0a1_zpsd72d0fd0.png]L0a[/URL] and many other maternal lineages though to have an ORIGIN in the area and are found there today. 2 - Some of the ancestry found in Egypt today, particularly among groups not thought to have participated in the Slave trade (Copts) is From East and Horn Africa. There really is no record of any high amount of enslaved humans coming from East Africa into Egypt to be responsible for the distribution maps of those above lineages. Furthermore mtdna studies to show these lineages to be recent in Egypt. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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