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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass/: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Do you want us to dig up your eurocentric loon claims on Mansa Musa etc? [/QUOTE]I posted something around 5 years ago on it. If I remember correctly, what I said is Malian state religion was Islam, but this obviously was not an indigenous faith to Mali, but brought in by Arabs. I then said, a 14th and 15th century Manuscript, seems to depict Mansa Musa (and another king) as an Arab. He don't look black African, nor do some of the other kings. Who can deny this? Do these look black to you? Kankan Moussa, King of Mali [IMG]http://images2.bridgemanart.com/cgi-bin/bridgemanImage.cgi/400wm.XIR.265270.7055475/69383.jpg[/IMG] Source: Mecia de Villadeste, map from a Catalonian atlas, 1413. Musa I of Mali, King of Mali [IMG]http://www.blackpast.org/files/blackpast_images/Musa__Mansa.jpg[/IMG] Source: Catalan Atlas of the known world, drawn by Abraham Cresques, 1375. Whatever the case, I never said these were Europeans, but possibly Arabs. [/qb][/QUOTE]1) You have know understanding on phenotypes in Mali. Mali is partly Sahara partly Sahel, at that time Mali was under the rule of Greater Ghana. Your delusion concept of how a black person is supposed to look like is merely laughable. 2) All classic Mali manuscripts are written in local language and passed on by locals from generation to generation. 3) You have no concept of what Arabs look like, with whom people from the Sahel had contact with. 4 Explain why Mansa Musa spend amounts of gold in Egypt, destabilizing the Egyptian economy for many years. After he saw the statues and murals, he felt so proud of the accomplishments. This was during the Hajj to Mecca. lol 5) Explain what the words MANSA MUSA MEAN! LOL 6) The religion was in east Africa long before Mansa Musa came into existence. 7) Islam was not spread by Arabs in Greater Ghana, West Sudan. lol 8) In Islam it is forbidden to have actual depictions of a persons. Africas Islamic stream in origin is Maliki. Thus it explains why that depiction was not made by local people. But by foreign people like [b]Mecia de Villadeste[/b], map from a Catalonian atlas, 1413. And Catalan Atlas of the known world, drawn by [b]Abraham Cresques,[/b] 1375. 9) Explain the [b]Keita[/b] Dynasty. lol 10) Explain why the building of the Great Mosque is a communal event? Ps, I am just starting to ridicule you in front of the entire world, yet again. And after five years you are still stuck on stupid. lol [QUOTE] Although modern Ghana is unrelated to the ancient kingdom of Ghana, modern Ghana chose the name as a way of honoring early African history. The boundaries of the ancient Kingdom encompassed the Middle Niger Delta region, which consists of modern-day Mali and parts of present-day Mauritania and Senegal. [b]This region has historically been home to the Soninken Malinke, Wa’kuri and Wangari peoples. Fulanis and the Southern Saharan Sanhaja Berbers also played a prominent role in the spread of Islam in the Niger Delta region. Large towns emerged in the Niger Delta region around 300 A.D. [/b]Around the eighth century, Arab documents mentioned ancient Ghana and that Muslims crossed the Sahara into West Africa for trade. North African and Saharan merchants traded salt, horses, dates, and camels from the north with gold, timber, and foodstuff from regions south of the Sahara. Ghana kings, however, did not permit North African and Saharan merchants to stay overnight in the city. This gave rise to one of the major features of Ghana—the dual city; Ghana Kings benefited from Muslim traders, but kept them outside centers of power. […] The Songhay state patronized Islamic institutions and sponsored public buildings, mosques and libraries. One notable example is the Great Mosque of Jenne, which was built in the 12th or 13th century. The Great Mosque of Jenne remains the largest earthen building in the world. By the 16th century there were several centers of trade and Islamic learning in the Niger Bend region, most notably the famed Timbuktu. Arab chroniclers tell us that the pastoral nomadic Tuareg founded Timbuktu as a trading outpost. The city’s multicultural population, regional trade, and Islamic scholarship fostered a cosmopolitan environment. In 1325, the city’s population was around 10,000. At its apex, in the 16th century, the population is estimated to have been between 30,000 and 50,000. Timbuktu attracted scholars from throughout the Muslim world. [/QUOTE] http://spice.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/the_spread_of_islam_in_west_africa_containment_mixing_and_reform_from_the_eighth_to_the_twentieth_century Mud Masons of Mali [IMG]http://www.si.edu/Content/img/Exhibitions/db/NMNH_MudMasons_f-W4-16-wall-building_400p.jpg[/IMG] August 31, 2013 - April 2014 (TBA) Museum: Natural History Museum Location: African Voices Focus Gallery, 1st Floor, Northeast Wing Djenne, a UNESCO World Heritage Site in Mali, is famous for its spectacular architecture. The city owes its unique character to its masons, inheritors of a craft tradition handed down from one generation of the Boso people to the next since the city arose in the 14th century. Discover -- through archival and contemporary photographs and early engravings -- how the masons continue their age-old craft and meet the challenges of a modern world. http://www.si.edu/Exhibitions/Details/Mud-Masons-of-Mali-4823 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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