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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: what you mean "M and N cant be modeled as SSA" ...in comparison to what? [b](they encompass all non Africans dude.)[/b][/QUOTE]You're contracting yourself. [i]And probably that, originally, [b]North Africans weren't a subset of SubSahran Africans.[/b][/i] —elMaestro How are North Africans not a subset of SSA, but Eurasians are? My point, which seems lost on you, is that it makes no sense to question me on why SSA ancestry can't serve as a proxy for North African ancestry when other non-SSA components (e.g. Eurasian) have the exact some properties. There is nothing special or remarkable about that to warrant turning it into a bombshell revelation that needs explaining. BTW, I literally have no idea what you're saying half of the time. Sometimes I pick up bits and pieces, like your support for Doug's and Clyde's claim that migration from the south invalidates the dichotomy between North African and SSA ancestry, but other times it's all jibberish to me. "Paralogous", "3D", "linear", the relevance of YRI, Khoisan and 80ky old BE. Very difficult to follow what you're saying. [/qb][/QUOTE]Original North Africans not being a [b]subset[/b] of SSA africans (the ones we know are SSA today). = Eurasians Are Africans to you? Like what are you getting at or not understanding? There was no YRI >50Kya. Africans didn't remain unchanged for over 50kya African genetic diversity is [i][b]also[/i][/b] due to admixture (recombination of various groups w/ respectable population size) North Africans didn't genetically spawn from a 50Kya Yoruba-Like population, then give birth to Eurasians. The available SSA populations can't serve as an appropriate stand in for North Africans for the same reason that Khoisan can't serve as an effective stand in for west Africans... ([i]hint: Because there's outliers that aren't accounted for... Which [b]might[/b] be present in Eurasian populations due to later Admixture from ancient Africans.[/i]) Think about what you are saying and how cookie cutter it is. with [i]"How are North Africans not a subset of SSA, but Eurasians are?"[/i] Both Khoisan and YRI can claim a basal position to Eurasians. But neither of the two groups fit between the other and Eurasians. Just replace khoisan with with Ancient north African. [b]EDIT:[/b] Trying to Orient yourself by pulling peices of a post apart to engagethem in isolation is a waste of time... please cut to the chase and give a definitive answer as to when the pn2 and also L3 carrying Yorubans hop off the AMH train and quit with the run around. It should be so easy right... since we attaching whole populations to uniparental haplogroups :rolleyes: lol [/QB][/QUOTE]
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