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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass/: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: There is a world of difference between "Hamiticism" and my position on this -- a position actually informed by the material evidence from a range of disciplines. You really should stop with this campaign of false equivalence, my friend. Let's examine the essential differences, shall we: I maintain that the ancient Egyptians are derived from Afrasian population (s) from within Northeast Africa itself and that what we can identify as 'Egyptian' shortly before the Dynastic period developed almost concurrently with ethnically and culturally indistinguishable predynastic cultures in Upper Egypt and North Sudan. I maintain the obvious position that out of these closely related predynastic cultures in Upper Egypt and North Sudan.. those that later formed an integral part of the Egyptian State eventually became the most successful, the most innovative, the most ingenius, sophisticated and materially advanced cultures at the heels of the Dynastic period. The wholly patronizing and self-serving "Hamitic" myth pushed forward the idea that a small group of unrelated and undoubtedly superior "Eurasians" found a primitive African population in Egypt and enobled them by providing all the essential ingredients of civilization when they established themselves as the elite of an inferior underclass mass of indigenous Africans - thereby founding the splendour that was Dynastic Egypt. Drop the pretense that they are essentially the same. [/qb][/QUOTE]What you outlined is not inconsistent with Hamiticism at all. You posted a Neolithic/pre-Dynastic time-line arguing for Upper Egypt and Nubian (north Sudan) biological ties. This is still consistent with a Hamiticist arguing for an Epipaleolithic migration into North Africa from the south Levant/Arabia. Where do you think Stone Age North Africans (Saharans) came from? Most the Hamitic proponents I used to know 5-6 years back on Hamitic-Union were Egyptians, Nubians, Somalis, Beja and Sudanese Arabs; the admin of this forum I knew is a Somali. [b]Real vs. Bogus Affinities of the Ancient Egyptians[/b] http://hamiticunion.proboards.com/thread/38 [b]Origin of the Hamites[/b] http://hamiticunion.proboards.com/thread/8 [b]Paleo-Hamites and Proto-Hamites[/b] http://hamiticunion.proboards.com/thread/10 [/QB][/QUOTE]I've clearly amused you long enough, Cass. The "Hamitic" myth is not even remotely tenable and has long been discarded, so get with the times and simply forget about it. None of the precursors to Dynastic Egypt came from "Eurasia". You can go as far back as the Epipaleolithic or any other period of your choosing prior to Dynastic Egypt and you will invariably be confronted with the insurmountable fact that they were never "Eurasians". Get over it. The Berber language is derived from a Northeast African homeland and the various Berbers I showed you in the other thread most likely represent the original Berbers of the Maghreb. Even the light-skinned Berbers of the Coast are predominantly African paternally. I'm trying to understand why the European mind has this disturbing, almost maniacal need to insert himself into ancient African history using "Eurasian" as a Trojan horse. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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