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Oshun
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Settlements don't count. Must also be overwhelmingly modern European in character.
 
the lioness,
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Larnaca, Cyprus 1,400 BC

Trikala, Greece c. 1,200 BC

Chalcis, Greek Islan c. 1,200 BC

Lisbon, Portugal, 1,200 BC

Cadiz, Spain 1,100 BC

Zadar, Croatia, 1000 BC

Mtskheta, Georgia, 1000 BC
 
the lioness,
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Larnaca, Cyprus


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Lisbon, Portugal
 
Ish Gebor
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quote:
Originally posted by Oshun:
Settlements don't count. Must also be overwhelmingly modern European in character.

Nice subliminal post.
 
Oshun
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From Eupedia:

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Solnitsata (Bulgarian: Солницата, "The Saltworks") by the historians, the real name in that time is unknown) which is shown in wikipedia as a real oldest town in Europe, established some where in 4700 BC. The settlement was walled to protect the salt, a crucial commodity in antiquity.[3] Although its population has been estimated at only 350,[3] archaeologist Vassil Nikolov argues that it meets established criteria as a prehistoric city.[4] Salt production drove Solnitsata's economy, and the town is believed to have supplied salt throughout the Balkans. A large collection of gold objects nearby has led archaeologists to speculate that this trade resulted in considerable wealth for the town's residents.[1]
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http://www.hkv.hr/izdvojeno/vai-prilozi/p-r/raos-ivan/11144-senzacionalno-vinkovci-najstariji-europski-grad.html


At the center of this oldest European city (Vinkovci), the location of which archaeologists call "tell Market", Durman in 1977, on the site of hotel, found "there archaeological finds of starčevo culture, and they are dated in 6300. B.C.

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1. 3,800 BCE : Dobrovody (Ukraine) => I2a2, E1b1b , G2a and J2
2. 3,700 BCE : Talianki (Ukraine) => I2a2, E1b1b , G2a and J2
3. 3,700 BCE : Maydanets (Ukraine) => I2a2, E1b1b , G2a and J2
4. 3,250 BCE : Kasenovka (Ukraine) => I2a2, E1b1b , G2a and J2

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Bruszczewo (Unetice culture) - established ca. 2300/2200 BC (and inhabited for ca. 500+ years)

Inhabitants of Bruszczewo buried their dead in Łęki Małe kurgans (RISE431 from Allentoft 2015)

Trzcinica ("Carpathian Troy") - 2 ha large (the same size as Arkaim), inhabited ca. 2100-1350 BC.

Maszkowice - fortified town with a stone wall (built ca. 1750-1690 BC), but only 200+ inhabitants

Biskupin, 2 ha, ca. 100 large houses, ca. 1200 inhabitants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biskupin

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Vinkovci in Croatia is actually the oldest European city - indeed the oldest urban settlement in the continuity of which more than 8,300 years, says prof. dr. sc. Aleksandar Durman, Zagreb archaeologist who works at the Faculty of Philosophy in Zagreb.


 



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