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[QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] R u saying Cass is right and "y'all"is wrong? About what? So u ain't got no critique for no thing Cass posits? Yeah, a line has definitely been drawn. Y r u playing personalities when u oughtta be teaching us what u have come up with. Y damn people for what they don't know, then mock them instead of upping their knowledge base? [/qb][/QUOTE][b]He is correct in stating that folks are lying about their posting history.[/b] This is the same thing I said. When I talk about the past Modus Operandi of ES I include MYSELF regarding the belief in some of those doctrines. That is what some of the data supported at that time: [URL=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181964/]OLD Cruciani[/URL] supports nothing more than the very recent migration of M78 AA speaking Africans from the horn into North East Africa. We know the type of mtdna found in the North East that would support this. [URL=https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/7/7/1940/631621/Phylogeographic-Refinement-and-Large-Scale]NEW Cruciani[/URL] Paints a very different picture with perhaps a long term separation and different evolutionary history of the two regions in reg to M35. The new ancient Mtnda is somewhat hard to reconcile at the moment. Some folks changed with the data, some didn't. Some folks changed ides after Ancient DNA dealing with skin tone was published, some didnt. Some folks changed their tune regarding ancient Europeans after the sequencing of 3000-35000 year old specimens....some didn't. Some folks had ideas that change with Natufian/PPNB genomes....some didn't. It was a slow buildup, It was the gradual adoption of ideas based on new facts (and the intellectual honesty/maturity to do so) that some folks went through, and some DIDNT. And this data for some is like walking off a cliff, while others its like walking down one step. Cass, Like i take issues with people basically LYING about their posting history, even when that history is on record. The people are basically saying some of the same stuff (and posting the same images) that put them in this predicament in the first place. People are in essences looking over the cliff and saying "Its just one step for me". I got lambasted for changing ideas so this is my "I told you so moment". Also folks cannot be helped without admitting they have a problem. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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