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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] The point I m making is both Doug and Beyoku already have their minds made up and neither can hear the other nor want to hear the other (putting data and methodology aside, Doug has an intelligent analysis and is well grounded from a sociological (i.e., university field Afrocentric) stance. AFAIHR no uniparental haplogroup is no guarantee of no [i]individual's[/i] phenotype. [/qb][/QUOTE]Just to be clear, my perspective on this issue goes back to the other thread where certain folks began claiming that folks should be "shaking in their boots" because of this paper. The folks making this claim suddenly have become "pro defenders" of what science has to say about Genetics and Africa as if they are "insiders" or somehow part of the scholarly community. It is as if they want "special recognition" as if they are "part of the team" doing this work. Come on give me a break. But this is why certain folks seem to be so defensive about other folks comments on published papers. If these folks really do want to pursue a career in science and anthropology then more power to them. But I am not into this idea of "professional" amateur forum posters trying to act like they are more important than they really are. If that offends people then so be it but I wasn't the one running around calling folks "Afrocentric radicals" and all other such stuff behind this one paper. And now the paper is out and these same folks want to run off and pretend that they don't have a position on the data that THEY were telling everybody on the forum to be looking out for. And certainly current scholarship isn't asking input from anybody on this forum for the direction on or methodology they use in their work. I am a layman with my own observations and that is as far as it goes, but some folks like to pretend this is more than that. Like I said before multiple times, if they were serious about understanding the genetic history of the Nile Valley during and after OOA along with populations in AE they would sample more ancient specimens. And the authors themselves point out that this paper is not enough to "prove" anything across all of Egypt's history. This paper simply shows that they are able to get complete DNA from SOME mummies and not from others. It remains to be seen whether that will work on all mummies and ancient remains or not. So even though we may HOPE to get definitive DNA data on these ancient populations, it may not be consistent. Meaning the speculation and theorizing will go on for years both within scholarship and among amateurs on these forums some of whom will be trying to pretend this paper means more than it really does. I went to school at the height of the Afrocentric era and as far as Afrocentrism goes, scholarly Afrocentrism has failed to produce any graduates equipped in STEM to go into Anthropology to study African biological history across the board, not just in Egypt. Egyptsearch and posters on it just shows that there are some folks with the skill and ability to do their own research even if they are not professional anthropologists. But at the end of the day science and scholarship doesn't recognize ideas unless you write papers conforming to scholarly standards. Outside of that, ranting and raving on a forum, cheer leading certain scholars or rejecting others only has meaning mostly to other laymen. I wholeheartedly support taking their energy and passion and actually pursue the study of anthropology. But other than that this is just a forum full of folks having opinions and flaming each other like has been going on for many years.... Therefore if you REALLY want to make a change then you have to actually get into the field of anthropology and publish your own scientific observations. Otherwise, don't expect much to change any time soon. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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