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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [qb] I've been following discussions on various forums and people keep mentioning terms like "indigenous North African Egyptian ancestry" and "Eastern Saharan" ancestry, and this has left me perplexed. What mtdna haplogroups are indigenous to Egypt from the beginning? Which ones can we firmly associate with the Badarians, Naqadans and early dynastic Egyptians? Some people now suppose that the Eurasian mtdna profiles of the Abusir mummies are essentially representative of predynastic and early dynastic Egyptians. [/qb][/QUOTE]The issue is that according to most current studies the only "indigenous" mtdna lineages of Africa are the "L" lineages and these are not ironically also labeled "sub saharan". Which would mean that any other lineage becomes evidence of Eurasian back migration and mixture. But whether that is true or not depends on finding ancient remains that are 3, 4, 5, 10 and 20 thousand years old in North Africa and along the Nile Valley that supports this. Because otherwise, some of those non L mtdna lineages could be "indigenous" African lineages. Or many of the "indigenous" lineages in North Africa and the Egyptian Nile Valley are "L" lineages. But that would mean that "L" lineages are not restricted to "sub saharan" Africa and never were. This paper assumes that "L" lineages are "sub saharan". So they have created an a-priori set of parameters that automatically precludes any "indigenous" lineages in Egypt that could be both "indigenous" and "North African" but are not related to black flow from Europe or "Sub Saharan" L lineages. This is the game being played. The real issue is determining when the splits to the L lineages and the branches M and N came about. But I doubt these people really want to dig too deeply into that and absolutely prove those arose in "Eurasia". And even if they did, the those 'back migrants' returning to Africa > 40kya would still for all intents and purposes be black African in phenotype and if they stayed in Africa would justly be called "indigenous" if their descendants were still there 30,000 years later. But they haven't proven any of this yet and it would require heavy filtering and analysis of a lot of data from across North African, both ancient and modern to begin to try and prove it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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