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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Andromeda2025: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Andromeda2025: [qb] High rates of M1 without ancestor L3? Interesting. X & R misclassified L3?[/qb][/QUOTE]From what I can remember L3 was classified as non-African as well. [/qb][/QUOTE]Interesting, Yes I see it now, L3 lol, THEY never stop... Subclades are X & R [i]L3 is common in Northeast Africa, in contrast to others parts of Africa where the haplogroups L1 and L2 represent two thirds of mtDNAs.[6][7] L3 sublineages are also frequent in the Arabian peninsula.[/i] Haplogroup L2a1 was found in two specimens from the Southern Levant Pre-Pottery Neolithic B site at Tell Halula, Syria, dating from the period between ca. 9600 and ca. 8000 BP or 7500-6000 BCE.[17] [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes, that is true. In other to understand what has been going on we have the revised a lot of old papers. (the authors of this Abusir paper referred to old papers as well 1998-1999) They have twisted their way into a certain outcome. Thus claiming that E1b1b is uncertain to be African, because Hammer said so in 1998-1999. Of course they didn't show the Masalit and Fur: [QUOTE] Haplogroup E (four different haplotypes) accounts for the majority (34.4%) of the chromosome and is widespread in the Sudan. [b]E-M78 represents 74.5% of haplogroup E, the highest frequencies observed in Masalit and Fur populations.[/b] [/QUOTE]--Hassan HY1, Underhill PA, Cavalli-Sforza LL, Ibrahim ME. Y-Chromosome Variation Among Sudanese: Restricted Gene Flow, Concordance With Language, Geography, and History [QUOTE] In order to conform to the cladistic notation proposed by Richards et al. (1998), we will modify the preliminary subdivision of the Afro-Eurasian super-haplogroup L3 (defined by -3592 HpaI) into L3a, L3b, L3c [b]as performed by Watson et al. (1997)[/b]. In particular, the range of L3a and L3b is now narrowed: here L3a designates only the subcluster of L3 defined by k10394 DdeI ; L3b is now defined by j10084 TaqI, whereas the sister group to this (sharing the transition at np 16124) with the characteristic site loss k8616 MboI is now denoted by L3d. The group L3c of Watson et al. (1997) is renamed here as U6 (Richards et al. 1998) since it proves to constitute a part of haplogroup U. [b]Another basal subcluster of L3 [/b] seen in the data of Chen et al. (1995) will be referred to as L3e: it is characterized within L3 by the site gain j2349 MboI. In order to clarify the cluster status of the sequences under study we apply partial RFLP typing, especially in thoses cases where the HVSI status alone did not allow unambiguous cluster assignment. We use network methods based on parsimony to display the variation within specific mtDNA clusters, compiled from the world-wide mtDNA database, which are relevant for the study of Northwest African populations. [/QUOTE]—Rando JC1, Pinto F, González AM, Hernández M, Larruga JM, Cabrera VM, Bandelt HJ. Ann. Hum. Genet. (1998), 62, 531–550 Mitochondrial DNA analysis of Northwest African populations reveals genetic exchanges with European, Near-Eastern, and sub-Saharan populations http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1046/j.1469-1809.1998.6260531.x/asset/j.1469-1809.1998.6260531.x.pdf?v=1&t=j52do5fd&s=bb6f678a615af17a7bef28029677cc32699bc308 Side note: [QUOTE] [i]Fury at DNA pioneer's theory: Africans are less intelligent than Westerners[/i] [b]Dr Watson[/b] told The Sunday Times that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really". He said there was a natural desire that all human beings should be equal but "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true".[/QUOTE] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html [/QB][/QUOTE]
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