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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [qb] I think the proto-Natufians was a group similar to the Fur and Masalit (which split from Central Sudan) who happen to carry the main linage E1b1b. This also evident in the tool industry carried by Natufians, which shows a pattern from Central Sudan going into the Levant. Even when you put Brace's finding into it, is makes sense. And it is not that Max Plank is completely ignorant about these people's existence: [IMG]https://www.eth.mpg.de/3579182/behrends-04_jpg_1867713258-1424263104.jpg[/IMG] [i]Young people from various villages in Dar Masalit.[/i] https://www.eth.mpg.de/3578595/project And whenever we speak of this region we have to keep in mind: [QUOTE] [b]African and Middle Eastern populations shared the greatest number of alleles absent from all other populations [/b](fig. S6B). [/QUOTE]—Sarah A. Tishkoff et al. The Genetic Structure and History of Africans and African Americans Yeah, I emphasize on this Sarah A. Tishkoff because it is very important in understanding the drift. [/qb][/QUOTE]By tool industry, I assume you are referring to the Halfan Culture of the Nile Valley which some claim to be ancestral to the Kebaran Culture of the Levant which in turn is the antecedant of the Natufian. Even Mathilda has made [URL=https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/dating-the-kebaran-site-of-nahal-hadera/]the claim[/URL], and uses [URL=https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/tag/halfan-culture/]E-M78 and M1[/URL] to make her case. While I do see a resemblance in certain features of tool assemblage, for me the affinity between Halfan and Kebaran is not that great for it to be totally conclusive. I still say a large piece of the puzzle is to be found in the Egyptian Delta. Also, how wise is it for you to hold up modern populations like Fur or Masalit as "ancestral" E-M78. I used to subscribe to such a simplistic and static way of thinking but in the past several years of research as well as reading material presented here, I've changed. So many demographic changes can happen in just a short time span let alone before the Holocene to use any modern population as a model for the forebears of a clade. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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