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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [qb] I think it is misleading to use a collective term like Nubia to describe the many various tribes who inhabited Egypt’s southern borders and sphere of influence. Given the fact that many cultures labeled Nubian could easily be seen as a continuation of Afro-asiatic people and culture like Egypt this is evident from predynastic to even the Christian Era when king Ezana of Axum identified “red” Kasu along with black cushions etc. I think we should be careful using Nubia/Nahesu as a trump card esp given the fact that some DNA studies show so them to carry so called Eurasian lineages like J1 [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] Considering "Nubia" didn't exist as a nation sttate, let alone a collection of "all blacks" in Africa to the South of Egypt, this is meaningless. Whenever you hear the term "Nubia" referring to ancient populations on the Nile, it means segregating "blacks" vs Egyptians. But you got some folks pretending that the ancient Egyptians were settled by "back migrants" and therefore "different" from the locals and hence "locals" or "true Africans" are only represented by "Nubians". No matter whether they ever sample more DNA from ancient mummies, they will still be trying to spin that the AE were a different population than local Africans and hence "different". And even if they don't quantify what that means, it still justifies the distinction between "AE" as "back migrants" or "mixed" and other Africans to the South. And of course that dividing line will always conveniently be on the boundary of AE and so called "nubia". Even though all the archaeological and anthropological data contradicts this they will still spin it as much as possible. [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]Agreed and welcome back. Just pointing out the obvious that this new round of DNA studies hasn't really changed the status quo as far as the status quo is concerned. To "mainstream" science AE was a transplant from somewhere outside of Africa. Everything they have done since Napoleon has been to reinforce that view in one way or another. Using selective DNA and arbitrary non-historical terms like "Nubian" is part of that. This is why they have not sampled or published any actual DNA from remains in ancient Upper Egypt and Sudan. It would go against the narrative they are trying to tell that this region was the boundary between "black Africans" as represented by so-called "nubia" and "other" as represented by the AE. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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