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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [qb] Lioness Yes, I'm from Sudan, and I have almost always put "Nubian" in quotation marks but people actually identify as "Nubian" and it's clear that everybody knows what I'm talking about. As for that Christian-era sample, I'll have to look into it. The Eurasian dominant Christian-era samples could be of people that emigrated to Sudan prior to the collapse of Makuria. It's not ancient enough to have implications for Dynastic times. [/qb][/QUOTE]. , [IMG]https://images2.imgbox.com/10/a5/5S0OUyPN_o.jpg[/IMG] Earliest Abusir El-Melaq mummies As for dynastic period Egypt the the oldest mummy they analyzed dated 1388-1311 (New Kingdom) they said carried J2a1a1 far earlier than Christianity or Islam The Hyksos were expelled a couple hundred years earlier in 1550 BC. There are four more J2 carriers but of later periods and no J1s [QUOTE] Because all samples within J2a1a1 lacking the transitions at nps 319 and 489 were not sequenced at these sites, it is highly probable that they form a large central node for J2a1a1 shared by all Puerto Rican samples that is likely the founder haplotype of J2a1a1. This haplotype is common among non-Ashkenazi Jewish populations: of the 11 non-Puerto Rican samples, 7 are known Jewish samples, including four Spanish exilers, two Libyan Jews and one Moroccan Jew (Behar et al. 2008). ---A Mainly Circum-Mediterranean Origin for West Eurasian and North African mtDNAs in Puerto Rico with Strong Contributions from the Canary Islands and West Africa [/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]We've gone over this before, lioness These samples were from Northern Egypt and are samples following a long period of foreign domination (political & perhaps demographic) in the North by the Canaanites and then the Hyksos. The Upper Egyptians of that time had to grapple with Eurasian invasions, *settlements* and domination from the 12th Dynasty until the 18th Dynasty. The Abusir mummies could be the descendants of Levantine invaders and some coastal Berbers. Copts are probably descended from this mixture. If they can get early Dynasty Southern Egyptian samples (as large as the Abusir study) and they show the same profile as the Abusir mummies... then I'll be convinced. I don't trust Europeans when it comes to African history, because they still have a strong anti-African bias in their studies. Westerners are trying to find, insert and glorify themselves in African history. Swenet has done a tremendous job exposing their bias and deception; they do this by ignoring certain things, play dumb or fail to contextualise. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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