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Mumy genome from Middle Egypt: gedmatch: M832273
# Population Percent 1 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 33.73 2 NATUFIAN 30.10 3 CHG_EEF 20.19 4 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 11.70 5 SUB_SAHARAN 4.19 - This peaks in West Africans, African Americans whose ancestors came to the US as Slaves from modern day Nigeria, Senegal etc. The rest of the components are typical for people of South European and Near Eastern ancestry.
Finished reading population data. 145 populations found. 13 components mode.
Using 3 populations approximation: 1 50% Jordanian +25% LBK_EN +25% Saudi @ 3.996398
Another specific for Sub Saharan and North African populations
# Population Percent 1 French 55.94 2 North-Africa 42.33 3 Omotic 1.73
Finished reading population data. 59 populations found. 10 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation: 1 libya @ 15.726886 2 egypt @ 22.098352 3 egyptans @ 24.373415 4 algeria @ 24.569851 5 morocco-n @ 25.291477 6 moroccans @ 34.604900 7 sahara-occ @ 48.948505 8 morocco-s @ 49.461689 9 EtA @ 57.405262 10 EtT @ 59.223495 11 ethiopian-jews @ 60.038120 12 french @ 61.117149 13 EtT-P @ 65.061348 14 EtA-P @ 67.756828 15 Afar @ 69.696190 16 EtO-P @ 69.993202 17 EtO @ 71.894112 18 fulani @ 72.797691 19 hema @ 77.338104 20 mozabite @ 77.674553
Using 2 populations approximation: 1 50% french +50% sahara-occ @ 7.377661
francesco01 Member # 22790
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Genetic distance from European populations:
Distance from African populations and the New World (mixed Euro-Afro-Native populations)
Elmaestro Member # 22566
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Thanks for posting, can you repost the last image uncropped to show more of west Asia please.
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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Francesco01, what you put in is what will come out. That is how software works.
You are telling us that people all over the world show genetic relatedness with ancient Egyptians, except for the people who came from the continent where ancient Egyptians originated, Central Sudan. That sure sound logical, I can give you that. And like Elmaestro said, thanks for posting and show more of west Asia please.
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Colored dots indicate genetic diversity. Each new group outside of Africa represents a sampling of the genetic diversity present in its founder population. The ancestral population in Africa was sufficiently large to build up and retain substantial genetic diversity.
--Brenna M. Henna, L. L. Cavalli-Sforzaa,1, and Marcus W. Feldmanb,2
The great human expansion
sudaniya Member # 15779
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quote:Originally posted by Elmaestro: Thanks for posting, can you repost the last image uncropped to show more of west Asia please.
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I find discussions on anthrogenica to be very informative. Based on all these results it's clear that the Abusir mummies are of Levantine origin. It's too bad we can't retrieve the DNA of Badarian and Naqadan Egyptians to compare them to these mummies.
Early dynastic samples would also be extremely instructive if not entirely conclusive. We need these samples from the region in which the ancient Egyptian civilization sprang from -> the Southern regions of Egypt and Lower 'Nubia'.
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: I find discussions on anthrogenica to be very informative. Based on all these results it's clear that the Abusir mummies are of Levantine origin. It's too bad we can't retrieve the DNA of Badarian and Naqadan Egyptians to compare them to these mummies.
Early dynastic samples would also be extremely instructive if not entirely conclusive. We need these samples from the region in which the ancient Egyptian civilization sprang from -> the Southern regions of Egypt and Lower 'Nubia'.
How is JK2888 explained? Because this mummy clearly shows genetic relation to southern populations of Egypt. Known as Saharan-Sahel populations.
sudaniya Member # 15779
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: I find discussions on anthrogenica to be very informative. Based on all these results it's clear that the Abusir mummies are of Levantine origin. It's too bad we can't retrieve the DNA of Badarian and Naqadan Egyptians to compare them to these mummies.
Early dynastic samples would also be extremely instructive if not entirely conclusive. We need these samples from the region in which the ancient Egyptian civilization sprang from -> the Southern regions of Egypt and Lower 'Nubia'.
How is JK2888 explained? Because this mummy clearly shows genetic relation to southern populations of Egypt. Known as Saharan-Sahel populations.
I understand that E-V22 was found in one of the mummies but I'll have to look up what percentage it manifested itself in the Y-DNA profile of that one specific mummy... assuming that they broke it down like that.
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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quote:Originally posted by sudaniya:
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: I find discussions on anthrogenica to be very informative. Based on all these results it's clear that the Abusir mummies are of Levantine origin. It's too bad we can't retrieve the DNA of Badarian and Naqadan Egyptians to compare them to these mummies.
Early dynastic samples would also be extremely instructive if not entirely conclusive. We need these samples from the region in which the ancient Egyptian civilization sprang from -> the Southern regions of Egypt and Lower 'Nubia'.
How is JK2888 explained? Because this mummy clearly shows genetic relation to southern populations of Egypt. Known as Saharan-Sahel populations.
I understand that E-V22 was found in one of the mummies but I'll have to look up what percentage it manifested itself in the Y-DNA profile of that one specific mummy… assuming that they broke it down like that.
Some form of U6 sub-clade was found in the mummy too. Anyway, both paternal and the maternal linages are found at the South (Sahara-Sahel region). And this mummy is the "acclaimed post-Ptolemaic" mummy.
quote:Introduction
After the dispersal of modern humans Out of Africa, around 50–70 ky cal BP1,2,3,4 or earlier based on fossil evidence5, hominins with similar morphology to present-day humans appeared in the Western Eurasian fossil record around 45–40 ky cal BP, initiating the demographic transition from ancient human occupation [Neandertals] to modern human [Homo sapiens] expansion on to the continent1"
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The haplogroup of PM1 falls within the U clade [Fig. 1B and Supplementary Table 3], which derived from the macro-haplogroup N possibly connected to the Out of Africa migration around 60–70 ky cal BP1,2,3,4. In line with this, the Peştera cu Oase individual that lived on the current territory of Romania, albeit slightly earlier than PM1 [37–42 ky cal BP] also displays haplogroup N9.
—Hervella et al. 2016
Fourty2Tribes Member # 21799
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This is one of 10 ancestry test. The others???
Fourty2Tribes Member # 21799
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quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: [QB] I find discussions on anthrogenica to be very informative. Based on all these results it's clear that the Abusir mummies are of Levantine origin. It's too bad we can't retrieve the DNA of Badarian and Naqadan Egyptians to compare them to these mummies.
Early dynastic samples would also be extremely instructive if not entirely conclusive. We need these samples from the region in which the ancient Egyptian civilization sprang from -> the Southern regions of Egypt and Lower 'Nubia'.
Don't publish or ignore all genetic test on ancient Egyptians until you test a Hyksos heavy burial...
Please note that this title predominantly consists of content available free of charge on the Internet (for example, from the Wikipedia Encyclopedia). Abu Sir al Malaq (also Abusir el-Meleq, Abusir el-Melek) is a place on the west bank of the lower Nile near the entrance to the Fayyum Basin. The site served as the burial site of the late Negade Culture (IId2â € "IIIB) and was re-occupied in the Hyksos period, the Saitian and Roman periods. The graves of the Hyksos period were dated by scarbes with royal names and contained elongated skeletons that were determined to be semitic anthropologically. From the 25th dynasty comes the untroubled tomb of Tadja, which is now in Berlin.
-" After the flood the people of Egypt became a mixture of nations; there were the Copts, the Greeks, the Romans, the Amalek, and others. But the majority were Copts. The Egyptians became a mixture because of the various nations that took control of their country, such as the Amalek, the Greeks, and the Romans. The various nations became a mixture, and it became difficult for the people to trace their origins; thus, by way of introduction, they were satisfied to say that they were from the country of Egypt. " Science in the Medieval World By Sa`id al-Andalusi (1029–1070)
Now you have people doing echo chamber reviews ignoring this.
Thereal Member # 22452
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What is the chart suppose to be showing?
Fourty2Tribes Member # 21799
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Ramses iii's ancestry tests. Notice I said tests because the bars and parentheses measure two different things.
the lioness, Member # 17353
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The chart is from the private DNA testing company DNA Tribes based on their proprietary match likelihood method
The Zawi Hawas team reported Rameses III Y Dna to be E1b1a
comparatively one of the Abusir mummies was E1b1b1
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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quote:Originally posted by sudaniya:
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: I find discussions on anthrogenica to be very informative. Based on all these results it's clear that the Abusir mummies are of Levantine origin. It's too bad we can't retrieve the DNA of Badarian and Naqadan Egyptians to compare them to these mummies.
Early dynastic samples would also be extremely instructive if not entirely conclusive. We need these samples from the region in which the ancient Egyptian civilization sprang from -> the Southern regions of Egypt and Lower 'Nubia'.
How is JK2888 explained? Because this mummy clearly shows genetic relation to southern populations of Egypt. Known as Saharan-Sahel populations.
I understand that E-V22 was found in one of the mummies but I'll have to look up what percentage it manifested itself in the Y-DNA profile of that one specific mummy... assuming that they broke it down like that.
Mummy JK2888,
— U6a2 is found in Africa, Sahara region.
— E-V22 is found in Africa, Sahara region.
"U6a2 comprises mainly of Ethiopian sequences with some outsiders"
"In the present study, the U6a2 branch shows an important radiation centered in Ethiopia (Table 2) at around 20 kya (see Additional file 2)."
E-V22 has already been covered, and is found throughout the Sahara-Sahel.
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