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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: This also supports the view that their lineage is indigenous as supported by Kefi et al. [QUOTE] why are you lying? Over and over again Kefi calls these haplogroups Eurasian [/QUOTE]the maternal genetic lineage of TAF population is composed of North African hap logroup (U6) and Eurasian haplogroups (H, U, R0). Interestingly among the seven samples tested, no Sub-Saharan haplogroups (L0–L7) were identified. Our results showed that the mtDNA sequences of the seven specimens from AFA are classified exclusively into Eurasiatic haplogroups: H or U (three individuals), T2 (two individuals), JT (one individual), and J (one individual). Our findings are in agreement with our previous study Our phylogenetic analysis showed that Iberomaurusian individuals from TAF and AFA (coastal archaeological sites in Northern Morocco and in Northern Algeria respectively) are genetically close to Berbers from the North of Morocco, Berbers from the Jerba Island in Tunisia and close to some South Western European populations: Valencia and the Balearic Islands from Spain and Sardinia from Italy According to our results, the presence of Eurasian haplogroups (JT, J, T, H, R0a1, U) in AFA and in TAF individu- als suggests that these lineages were present in North Africa at least 21,000 YBP confirming the estimated coales- cence time for these haplogroups (Brandst€atter et al. 2008;) -- On the origin of Iberomaurusians: new data based on ancient mitochondrial DNA and phylogenetic analysis of Afalou and Taforalt populations Rym Kefi 2017 [/QUOTE]. . [QUOTE] https://bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12863-017-0514-6 Phylogeographic and phylogenetic analyses performed in the present study suggest that the main H sub-Hg indicators of post-glacial population expansions from the Iberian refuge were H1 and H3, the most frequent maternal lineages in Iberia. The time depths calculated for these sub-clades in Iberia and the Maghreb, together with the presence of specific H variants in some North African populations –revealed at a deep phylogenetic resolution (e.g. H1v1, H1w, and others in Tuareg from Libya [16])– it would support scenarios of ancient radiations in the direction Iberia-to-North Africa. Accordingly, the genetic structure analysis of Mediterranean populations by AMOVA demonstrated that Italy was significantly different from Iberia (see Table 4) and that this dissimilarity was not as visible between Iberian and Maghrebian populations. These findings suggest that gene flow between Europe and northwestern Africa, involving Hg H, would have occurred primarily through Iberia. The HCA also provided strong support for this assertion. --The distribution of mitochondrial DNA haplogroup H in southern Iberia indicates ancient human genetic exchanges along the western edge of the Mediterranean, 2017 [/QUOTE][IMG]http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure/image?size=inline&id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0056775.t001[/IMG] Introducing the Algerian Mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosome Profiles into the North African Landscape Asmahan Bekada, 2013 ^^ As we can see haplogroup L is under 3% in Mozabites. Therefore even if one argued for an African origin of Haplogroup H Europeans maternally are closer to Mozabites and many of the other berbers than Sub Saharan Africans are maternally to these H carrying berbers If you want to go that route it would be more useful to suggest that berbers are the maternal ancestors of Europeans instead of saying European are depigmented Africans which has nice shock value but is a lot more vague. Anyway this Bekada chart shows Mozabites 22.35% H carriers and 27% U6 Ancient DNA classified as belonging to the U* mitochondrial haplogroup has been recovered from human remains found in Western Siberia, dated to c. 45,000 years ago ( "Carriers of human mitochondrial DNA macrohaplogroup M colonized India from southeastern Asia" -Cabrera 2017) Also notable are Libyan Tuaregs carry haplogroup H at 61% ( Ottoni 2010) The Y haplogroup M81 is an E clade and that is the most common West African E , although a different sub clade of it So you have to ask yourself why maternally are berbers mainly H and U6 carriers which are entirely different clades than Sub Saharans, virtually no H recorded in other non-Northern parts of Africa [/QB][/QUOTE]
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