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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: "Arab" conquest never happened. There is no genetic proof. But the Turks did invade. [/QUOTE]Haologroups of the Arabian peninsula are also found in North Africa so you can't say that. You could try to argue that such haplogroups originate in North Africa and North Africans brought them to Saudi Arabia but if so that does not prove that there was not an invasion by Arabs beginning in the 7th century. At best if that were true you could only say that you can't tell by genetics if there was or there wasn't an invasion by Arabs. So to say genetic evidence proves there was no Arabian invasion of North Africa is a unqualified However the oldest remains carrying J1 were found in Satsurblia cave (c. 13200 BCE) in Georgia a country of the caucus region (Jones et al. (2015)) so you can't even make the claim that J1 is African The situation is obvious Indigenous YDNA of North Africa is haplogroup E not J and the J1 in the Maghreb shows little diversity. E1b1b is also common on the Arabian peninsula. And it is also common in the North Africa. The fact that it is common in both of these areas and even if it originates in North Africa does not mean a historical event did not occur. It does not mean Arabs did not take over North Africa. Yet your non-sequiturs, false statements keep manifesting. There are about 10 Arabic speaking countries in Africa. That did not coma about by Africans saying to themselves, damn we just love that Arabian culture so much. It came about by armies coming into Egypt and North Africa. They didn't have to go to war in every case. Sometimes when an invading army comes into a people's territory if they think they have no chance some will fight and die out of pride but others will simply let them do what they want and try to make the best of it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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