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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Linda Fahr: [qb] To the lioness Physiographically, the concept of the map you posted is accepted academically. Any child from Middle School knows that. I addressed the European theory which says that farming was introduced and spread into the Middle East(Mesopotamia), Europe and Africa by Eurasian Indo-European speaking peoples from the step of Central Asia and settlers from the Balkans. Unless you don't consider peoples from these regions to be Eurasians? In reference to the term(contamination) linguistically, it also means "process of forming blends). Now, you have the rights to our own technical interpretation as you wish. [/qb][/QUOTE]You are correct the contemporary Europeans originated in Central Asia. Mark and Mike proved this point years ago. [/QUOTE]She didn't say anything about where Europeans originated. The subject was where farming originated. You can't be the real Clyde winters. According to the real Clyde Winters Europeans are depigmented Khoisans who originated in European caves such as the Grotte de Marche in Western France, tens of thousands of years ago Dr. Winters says that they lived in Europe in these caves for thousands of years and then left the caves traveling underground to Central Asia and leaving the caves 1400-1200 BC. Dr. Winters says that cave drawings at Grotte de Marche show white people [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Grotte de Marche engravings show the evolution of Blacks into europeans. Below is a Magdalenian carving from the Grotte de La Marche from 17,000-15,000 BC: See: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_96D2zI7_w6c/Sc4YV3c6juI/AAAAAAAAIes/kxopVZ44cdA/s1600/la+marche+faces280.jpg [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_96D2zI7_w6c/Sc4YV3c6juI/AAAAAAAAIes/kxopVZ44cdA/s400/la+marche+faces280.jpg[/IMG] This 17ky cave painting appears to record the changes in the Proto-European into more 'human' like forms today. [/QUOTE]Therefore white people are indigenous to Europe. Central Asia is merely a place where they migrated to much later if Dr. Winters is correct Experts say that these depigmented Khoisans were forced to live underground by the Kusihites. [/qb][/QUOTE]Kushites did not force anyone to live underground. Europeans exited the caves due to tectonic events between 1400-1200 BC. Before then, the Gutians (Syrian whites) had already began to infiltrate Anatolia. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/GutiansSumerians.png[/IMG] . The Sumerians were Black. The Gutians were Southern whites or Syrian Arabs, Pashto, Kurdish, Balochi and etc. [b] Gutians[/b] . [IMG]http://payload38.cargocollective.com/1/2/90555/3072262/sumer.jpeg[/IMG] Physical appearance - Wiki; According to the historian Henry Hoyle Howorth (1901), Assyriologist Theophilus Pinches (1908), renowned archaeologist Leonard Woolley (1929) and Assyriologist Ignace Gelb (1944) [b] the Gutians were pale skinned and blonde haired. This identification of the Gutians as fair haired first came to light when Julius Oppert (1877) published a set of tablets he had discovered which described Gutian (and Subarian) slaves as namrum or namrūtum, meaning "light colored" or "fair-skinned". [/b] This racial character of the Gutians as blondes or being light skinned was also taken up by Georges Vacher de Lapouge in 1899 and later by historian Sidney Smith in his Early history of Assyria (1928). Ephraim Avigdor Speiser however criticised the translation of[b] "namrum" as "light colored".[/b] An article was published by Speiser in the Journal of the American Oriental Society attacking Gelb's translation. Gelb in response accused Speiser of circular reasoning. In response Speiser claimed the scholarship regarding the translation of "namrum" or "namrūtum" is unresolved. The art supports the view they were "light skin". . [QUOTE]Originally posted November 8,2013 by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: [qb] Gutium: Gutian People, Gutian Dynasty of Sumer, Gutian Language [IMG]http://img2.imagesbn.com/p/9781158713295_p0_v1_s260x420.JPG[/IMG] [QUOTE] Excerpt: [b]The Gutians (also Guteans or Guti) were a tribe that overran southern Mesopotamia when the Akkadian empire collapsed in approximately 2183 BC (short chronology). [/b]Sumerian sources portray the Gutians as a barbarous, ravenous people from Gutium or Qutium in the mountains, presumably the central Zagros. The Sumerian king list represents them as ruling over Sumer for a time, and paints a picture of chaos within the Gutian administration. Next to nothing is known about their origins, as no "Gutian" artifacts have surfaced from that time; little information is gleaned from the contemporary sources. Nothing is known of their language either, apart from those Sumerian king names, and that it was distinct from other major languages of the region (such as Akkadian, Hurrian, and Elamite). The Guti appear in Old Babylonian copies of inscriptions ascribed to Lugal-Anne-Mundu of Adab as among the nations providing his empire tribute. These inscriptions locate them between Subartu in the north, and Marhashe and Elam in the south. They were a prominent nomadic tribe who lived in the Zagros mountains in the time of the Akkadian Empire. Sargon the Great also mentions them among his subject lands, listing them between Lullubi, Armanu and Akkad to the north, and Nikku and Der to the south. The epic Cuthaean Legend of Naram-Sin of a later millennium mentions Gutium among the lands around Mesopotamia raided by Annubanini of Lulubum during Naram-Sin's reign in Akkad. As Akkadian might went into a decline, the Gutians began to practice hit-and-run tactics on Mesopotamia; they would be long gone by the time forces could arrive to deal with the situation. Their raids crippled the economy of Sumer. [/QUOTE] http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/gutium-llc-books/1024980592?ean=9781158713295 [/qb][/QUOTE][IMG]http://olmec98.net/GutiSum.jpg[/IMG] [b]Gutian .... Sumerian..[/b] . [/QB][/QUOTE]
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