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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by [b]Doug M[/b]: The point is you are seeing "false positives" based on selective DNA sampling and comparisons. And it isn't a "perfect world" which is why I don't pretend these papers are really pushing anything more than propaganda.... ie. Eurasians overran North Africa and thus limiting "true African" DNA lineages to the "Sub Saharan" bantustan lineages... The TL;DR Bottom line African genetic history should not be modeled on or based on "Eurasian" anything. The roots of and origins of farming included. [/QUOTE]Ok... let's try again, what do you expect to see in the available ancient genomes? Which populations, ancient or extant do you desire to be Analyzed? And when they are, what exactly do you expect from the outcome? ^Start here, never mind the "BASAL this" or "Eurasian that" ...just please, start from here^ and help contribute to the progression of Afrocentered freelance research please. I find it funny that you complain about African not only being Bantoid or SSA or whatever, but little do you know Indigenous North African might be closest to ProtoBantu, not only that, I can tell you haven't so much as read the Abstract from Fregel 2017 operating on Ancient North African DNA, maybe if you did, you can occupy ground to debate on. [QUOTE]Originally posted by [b]Djehuti[/b]: If I'm not mistaken EEF means Early European Farmer which is comprised of Neolithic Near Easterners and Western Hunter Gatherers. Unfortunately we do not yet have the smoking gun so to speak in the form of skeletal remains in Africa yielding the 'Basal Eurasian' component at significant enough frequency which is why they still use the term "Eurasian". This despite the fact that there are skeletal remains in Southwest Asia (both Levant and Arabia) displaying African features.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what it's called(Basal Eurasian), what does matter however, is the fact that we [b]wont[/b] find a smoking gun... For instance to reiterate on my previous point, Hotu, draws closer or shows signatures related to Senegambians.. Natufians to a pseudo ~East African with low San HG, and CHGs to Nilotes. All three of these populations consistently show SSA signatures and score very high for Lazaridis' Basal Eurasian... How can a singular African population accommodate for all this variation? [b]Swenet[/b] makes a good point... [QUOTE]BTW, this is also why I'm very sceptical of claims that the non-SSA ancestry in Africa (e.g. Luxmanda) is actually PPN. It's anachronistic as it does not fit the aforementioned trend of homogenization. [b]Luxmanda's so-called PPN could easily be something EEF-related + various components of which some are African[/b], because that is exactly what PPN is also. I think when predynastics are sampled, their non-SSA ancestry will show a preference for PPN and Natufians (compared to EEF). But, taken literally, this is similarly bogus for all the aforementioned reasons.[/QUOTE]I cosign the Model, but to me whatever falls inline with being EEF-like is simply NorthAfrican Ancestry shared between European Neolithic Groups... Which I believe is supported by the ruling out of Anatolian Admixture (Skoglund 2017). the remainder of Luxmandas ancestry not shared with African groups in the paper is more related to the Near east (some if not all is actually due to admixture FMPOV)... regardless, this doesn't happen with a archetypal African Basal Eurasian subgroup existing, unless its North African... how does that Idea hold up with NAfrican aDNA, KEB can't be Basal Eurasian like, ...IAM, maybe, however, if you can prove introgression from Ibermaurasians and Model the remaining outgroup as both African but not SSAn... But once again, I don't know how well this is supported by archaeology [/QB][/QUOTE]
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