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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] @Djehuti [QUOTE]There is still, in this cline, a not so big gap between the Egyptians and the Nubians, Sudanese and Horn Africans (I’m citing here both modern and ancient DNA samples), which will possibly be filled in the future by yet unsampled biogeographic groups from Egypt and Sudan.[/QUOTE]Guy seems on point from what I've read so far. The gap is not filled because of what I described as [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010874;p=1#000045]'modularity'[/URL] earlier. Nubians with 'Natufian' but with non-indigenous other components from the south or the west (Maghreb/ANA and presumably also Takarkori) are not going to fill the gap. Only A-Group Nubians on the Egyptian border so far seem to have been like predynastic Egyptians in all anthro facets, while Nubians further south (e.g. Kerma) or certain early ones (Gebel Ramlah) were not. Also, these A-Group Nubians I am speaking of, they might cluster with other Nubians (C Group, A-Group from Upper Nubia) but they are not the same. We already know from, for instance, [URL=https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278416512000396]Gizeh-like elements in the Kerma sample[/URL], and [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010874;p=3#000113]'alien' types[/URL] discussed by early expeditions (e.g. Reisner) that later Nubian groups were different in different ways, even if not all analyses are consistently picking up on it. I believe Batrawi also spoke on heterogeneity in Nubia, with later groups (e.g. X Group) for instance having much more ancestry from the south. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's my premise as well. As parallels note the genomic gaps between East Eurasian populations. https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bf1a3fbaa34243b96aabd669b5eedd0b Not to mention the gaps between Australasian populations. [QUOTE][qb]------ BTW, I'm not interested in posting in this thread anymore. Just [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009830;p=2#000075]wanted to post the Kissufim data[/URL] for whatever it's worth. Tired of opinionated loudmouth non-contributing members who post trash and take more from the forum than they give. Go head. Turn it into another "Semetic" thread. Let's see how the thread is better off with your input. [/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] But your reference to the Kissufim data is noted. I remember Dana citing similar data on gracile Mediterraneans exhibiting such African facial traits that differ from the later lepto-type features that get identified as 'Mediterranean'. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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