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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] I am well aware of Finkelstein's theory. Yet all the temporal contexts in the Abraham story i.e. War of 9 Kings, Destruction of Cities in the Plains, are associated with the Bronze Age and the customs and traditions practiced by Abraham's people are associated with Mesopotamia not Canaan. What's funny is how one Jewish scholar believes the Abraham legend is indigenous and dates later to the Iron Age while another Jewish scholar (Dr. Elhaik) agrees with the tradition that Abraham's family originates from norther Mesopotamia (Turkey) and dates from the Bronze Age. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tazarah: [qb] @Djehuti When I questioned you about it the other week, this is what you said about the "cohen gene" on the last page of that same thread: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] ^ No there is no conclusive evidence like the remains of an Israelite priest or Levite being tested. [/qb][/QUOTE] http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010891;p=12 *** Now all of a sudden it's been proven. This is why I do not take you seriously, and why your insults and ad homs mean literally nothing.[/qb][/QUOTE]Bro, I stopped taking you seriously long time ago in that very thread due to your dishonesty and you prove it again when you leave out the [i]rest of my above post[/i]. [QUOTE]No there is no conclusive evidence like the remains of an Israelite priest or Levite being tested. [qb]But it is an interesting inference that so many Levites and Cohens today from different communities of Jews share that same clade and NOT E. So the circumstantial evidence of today's populations do not favor your desire.[/qb][/QUOTE]So while there is no conclusive evidence, we do have circumstantial evidence that J is the cohanic/Levite lineage, which is more than what can be said about Elhaik's hg E theory. [QUOTE][qb]You can claim Israeli geneticists disagree with Dr. Elhaik, but there are others who agree with him and who also assert that modern Jewish populations are actually descendants of proselytes (converts).[/qb][/QUOTE]Most geneticists in general (Jew & Gentile) disagree with him for the following reason that the predominant Middle Eastern clade in all endogamous major Jewish groups is J. [IMG]https://images2.imgbox.com/02/40/86oUrzpi_o.png[/IMG] And that among Levi and Cohen, J occurs at almost 100%. [QUOTE][qb]Furthermore, as I have already pointed out several times, your theory about Noah > Shem > Abraham being J carriers can only be possible if the Biblical flood was not global, but the Bible clearly says it was, and that only Noah and those on the ark with him survived. It's funny how you try to discredit Elhaik yet his research is actually congruent with the Biblical narrative, while your opinions are not.[/qb][/QUOTE]If you paid attention to what I wrote I don't have a theory as to what haplogroup Shem and his father Noah had because the story of Noah's flood is a legend that borders on mythology. The story of a single patrilineage populating all the known regions of the Biblical world contradicts the paper I cited about (at least) 3 distinct groups populating the Levant alone. [QUOTE] [i] GENESIS 7:21-24 "21 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died. 23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. 24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days." [/i] [/QUOTE]Again, this narrative is based on the perspective of the person/people telling the story and the word translated as "earth" is the Hebrew word eretz which means [b]land[/b] and not necessarily the entire globe. Are you aware that there are similar flood myths like Vaivasvata Manu in India and Deucalion of Greece. While the great deluge was similar, there are obvious differences between these versions. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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