...
Post A Reply
my profile
|
directory
login
|
register
|
search
|
faq
|
forum home
»
EgyptSearch Forums
»
Egyptology
»
Asar Imhotep's book Nsw.t Bjt.j
» Post A Reply
Post A Reply
Login Name:
Password:
Message Icon:
Message:
HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Khepera9evolution: Pg. 46 It is observations like this that help in the assumption of a continuity between the languages of M-E and Coptic, when in fact, as we argue, it is the result of existing relatively peacefully in a confluence zone which facilitated the synthesizing of culture and shared linguistic features: enough to make researchers think that Coptic is the last stage of Egyptian. Pg 63 What probably happened is that after the end of the Middle-Kingdom, and the Second Intermediate Period, the indigenous population gained their independence and the N-K>Coptic Languages became languages of administration and writing. The Coptic language may actually be a dialect of N-K that was adapted by a foreign population that settled in Km.t. When we look at the appearance of the Copts today, they do not at all resemble that of the artwork of the rmt.w from earlier periods. And It is my contention that the adoption of the Greek signs is because the Copts, partly, originated with and/or identified with people from the regions of the Aegean and Mesopotamia and vowels were critical to the understanding of the speech for which the original syllabary of ciKam would not have been adequate. And secondly there is no reason to even argue that Coptic and Middle Egyptian are the SAME because no one says they ARE THE SAME... They say that Coptic is a continuation of Egyptian language... Asar Imhotep totally disagrees with that and tries to say that Coptic is the result of foreigners speaking with Middle and Late Egyptian hence borrowing which he says "Makes researchers THINK that Coptic is the last stage of Egyptian"... That point is preposterous on the fact that these languages were spoken at vastly different time periods... its just like saying Proto Germanic, Old English, Modern Eglish, Afrikaans, and Old Saxon were all spoken at the EXACT SAME TIME... if that makes sense to you then i can see why you like this book [/QB][/QUOTE]I’m a little confused. Everything stated about Coptic is common sense or easily verifiable. The prayers read in the Coptic Church are of a different language than what was spoken in the MK. The video constantly appealed to authority over just that, stating that Asar was making some radicle statement about Coptic not being an indigenous ancient Egyptian language. That was one of my issues with the video. Egyptology is so backassward that you still have a bunch of people who see Coptic as an evolution from ‘the’ Egyptian language instead of an evolution from an Egyptian language. That is the only thing that may be somewhat advent garde in Asar and Mboli’s assessment. They are saying that Upper and Lower Egyptian were different languages. Egyptology is dogmatically stupid. It’s founded on lies agreed upon and mythconceptions. They debate for a century on the race of ancient Egyptians while there are pictures of them on the walls, and sculptures in the ground. Then you have the fake Nubian people that they just agree to agree on. Egyptology is a stupid field of science so making appeals to consensus and authority is logical fallacy in the context of the video. I think you are missing the point when you say it’s preposterous because the languages were spoken at different times. The point is that before the Coptic Church and the Greeks moving their capital to the Delta the people in the Delta spoke a language that would, through confluence become Coptic. The prevailing point that Asar is making, is that Upper and Lower Egypt spoke different languages in ancient times. As someone who studied the predynastic era I have no problem with that. Why would we expect people from different nations, with different totems and deities to speak the same language? I’m glad that someone is challenging Asar. We need to challenge our pioneers. My issue is that too much of the video was fluffed with appeals to authority in a field that has none. It exaggerates Asar’s claims as being radical and anti-consensus. I saw a video where Christopher Ehret said the exact same thing as Mboli Asar, that the similarity of the languages could be explained by coming from a common source. He isn’t firm about the location or the time period either. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Instant Graemlins
Instant UBB Code™
What is UBB Code™?
Options
Disable Graemlins in this post.
*** Click here to review this topic. ***
Contact Us
|
EgyptSearch!
(c) 2015 EgyptSearch.com
Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3