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Here we go again. QUEEN NEFERTITI BROUGHT TO LIFE WITH CONTROVERSIAL
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by capra: [qb] for Doug being on the same continent inevitably draws you into a mystic cultural union that cannot be hindered by wastelands or deserts mere physical proximity to Asia, connections by land and sea, cannot overcome the ultimate power of arbitrary geographic boundaries [/qb][/QUOTE]No being on the same continent brings you into a physical union with other people from the same continent. And we should assume this is the case before imposing or assuming closer relations with populations farther away via travel. This isn't abnormal. Asians are asians because they exist in Asia the landmass with other Asians. Europeans are Europeans because they exist in Europe the landmass with other Europeans. Africans are Africans because they exist in the African landmass with other Africans. Otherwise, if what you are saying is true, then everybody was everywhere regardless of geography because humans can move anywhere and have done so over time. So Europe is mixed, Asia is mixed and everybody is mixed. So lets be consistent. The Levant is mixed then. Arabia is mixed then. The Mediterranean is mixed then, etc. But we know some folks want to only apply this rule to certain parts of Africa for obvious reasons. And again, as far as Nefertiti goes nobody who claims that this bust is an accurate portrait of Nefertiti including skin tone, says this is "indigenous" to the Nile Valley. So obviously such features aren't African. The question is whether or not this is true. Either Nefertiti was an indigenous Egyptian from the Nile Valley and therefore not light skinned like that bust or she was indigenous and the bust is possibly a fraud or altered. Most artwork featuring Nefertiti looks blatantly African with big lips and other features not like the Berlin bust. But conveniently most of those images are downplayed compared to the Berlin bust. The fact is these are what most of the images of Nefertiti looked like in Egypt (and sure this isn't 100% realistic) but the point is you have two very different versions of Nefertiti. One looking blatantly African and the other looking more "non African". [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Queen_Nefertiti%2C_Limestone_relief.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Relief_of_Queen_Nefertiti_MET_47.57.1_EGDP020948.jpg/400px-Relief_of_Queen_Nefertiti_MET_47.57.1_EGDP020948.jpg[/IMG] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Relief_of_Queen_Nefertiti_MET_47.57.1_EGDP020948.jpg So the question becomes which is accurate? Why display a foreigner with African features if she wasn't African at all? And no "Afrocentrists" didn't create this artwork. So this is simply calling out the obvious. As a matter of fact, even from the artists workshop that this bust came from there are many other "realistic variations" of Nefertiti. So which is right? No other royal in Egyptian art has so many different depictions that are so drastically different. Most other depictions of Egyptian royals are so consistent that even without any name on it you can tell who it is. This is the only case in Egyptian art where you have such drastically different depictions of the same person. And ultimately the issue is that Europeans will obviously be attracted to the Berlin bust because it looks like them. While the African looking images of Nefertiti will be held up by Africans as proof she was African. This isn't rocket science. Of course there was only person named Nefertiti and until we find and positively identify her remains we may never know ultimately her origins. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Nefertiti_Berl%C3%ADn_07.JPG/470px-Nefertiti_Berl%C3%ADn_07.JPG[/IMG] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Nefertiti_Berl%C3%ADn_07.JPG/470px-Nefertiti_Berl%C3%ADn_07.JPG A collection of these is here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Statue_heads_of_Nefertiti Other art from Amarna which is highly realistic: [IMG]https://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/eg/web-large/DP355835.jpg[/IMG] https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/26.7.1396/ [/QB][/QUOTE]
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