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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by capra: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [qb] The most basal/Divergent clade with the earliest coalescent age has the highest frequency among the Medinjay 17+kya???? otherwise its found in Egypt and Moyen Atlas Berbers.[/qb][/QUOTE]that's not known to be a clade and it doesn't have a coalescent age (unless i am missing something?). and Madjingay n=15. [/qb][/QUOTE]It's (xpage66 and CTS10066) is it not? If it is, it represents the earliest split among these samples. meaning it'd be anything between estimated split time for "node 69" and the age of M2. Table s3 is mereley a breakdown for the clusterfuck that is of fig2. All those E-M2* branches don't distinguish anything that split before [b]E-U209[/b]. I figured it'd be easy to get the age of E-M2*(xpage66,CTS10066) which is why the authors made the triangle width equivalent to the age of E-M2 ([i]as opposed to half like they said it would if the couldn't estimate a time[/i]). The only clades we know for [b]certain[/b] lack a time estimate of any kind are: -[b]E-Page66*[/b] W.African** -E-M10 Chadic -[b]E-V4334[/b] W.African -E-V4261 Fulani/Egypt -[b]E-V6235*[/b] W.African -E-V4990 Moroccan -[b]E-V3224*[/b] W.Afican -[b]E-V1155[/b] Yoruba ^And the [b]Bold[/b] mutations are found in single individuals. To speak of sample size, there's a few hundred Cameroonians, none of which has E-m2(xV4257, [b]V4727[/b]) in anyway, how do we designate that as a starting point for the entire clade, couple that with the fact that E-V4257* represented by the 11kyo split is primarily found among Chadic speakers? And here's the common sense question again, What is prohibiting earlier expansion in SSA populations? It seems to me that if we had larger Sahelian/Saharan African sample sizes we'd only see more upstream mutations among them. **[b]EDT: PAGE66 is node 69 (fig2) and is actually 11kya[/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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