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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cheikh Anta Diop: If we speak only of the genotype, I can find a black who, at the level of his chromosomes, is closer to a Swede than Peter Botha is. But what counts in reality is the phenotype. It is the physical appearance which counts. This black, even if on the level of his cells he is closer than Peter Botha, when he is in South Africa he will live in Soweto. Throughout history, it has always been the phenotype which has been at issue; we mustn’t lose sight of this fact. The phenotype is a reality, physical appearance is a reality. [/QUOTE]Mr. Diop, I know this is 2018 and you haven't been on the scene for about 30 years but now that your back are you sure you can find a black person who, is closer to a Swede than Peter Botha? Peter Botha was of Dutch extraction and the highest YDNA frequency there is R-M269. The highest frequency YDNA for Swedes is haplogroup I1, that is believed to have originated in Northern Europe. The ancestor is I-M170. That's big in Norway, the Caucases, Croatia. It's one of the most European haplogroups. The Dutch, your Peter Botha types are also heavy with the Hap I . That haplogroup is virtually unknown in indigenous Africans. Your example is not working for me. I'm trying to think of a different example that would fit your intent but it's not that easy. Genetics in a historical context often leads us in more of a geographically oriented outcome as per a person's ancestors than strictly a phenotypical profile. Look at how many people are getting their DNA tested these days. There is probably going to be more emphasis on that even on the layman's social level than we are seeing now. We watch youtube videos now where people get excited about there DNA test results and their complexities rather than just going by these simplistic color based racial categories "black" or "white". And there is going to be more and more improved transportation therefore more so called "mixing" going on and these "do you consider yourself black or white" type of questions will become increasing over-simplified socially. You say physical appearance is a reality but so what? It's a reality as to how people are socially categorized but it doesn't mean biologists have to classify people according to social conventions and ignore DNA. It's better in my opinion that an effort is made to keep racial politics out of bio-anthropological analysis. And even more so when we take into account that form an historical perspective the social conventions as per categorizing people ethnically were different and always highly subjective [/QB][/QUOTE]
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