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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oshun: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE]I personally do not agree with this generic flow of history as being primarily a "Northern" flow of immigrants into Egypt and therefore "ovurrunning" or changing the local population into Non Africans by the later dynastic. Again, for such a thing to be true ALL the facts need to line up and they dont. First the First Intermediate period was a period of instability in all of Egypt but especially in the North. The north was fractured into multiple competing Dynasties. What restored the unity of the country? Southerners. The Middle Kingdom openly stated in multiple instances that Southern Queens were the legitimacy and stability for the throne. The Prophecy of Neferti is but one example. Then you have the famous lady from Elephantine I posted earlier. Another example of royalty and legitimacy of the throne coming from the South. And in full context elaphantine was in the first nome of Egypt which was Ta Seti, which was like Plymouth rock in America. You don't see legitimacy to the throne or stability in the country EVER flowing from Northern provinces. All during the dynastic era, Northern provinces were the source of INSTABILITY in the country. So claiming that Levantines flowing into Egypt was the basis of Egyptian culture and stability is false. They might have been there but claiming that Egypt revolved around assimilation of these people is NONSENSE. [/qb][/QUOTE]Who controlled Egypt is rather irrelevant. Leadership extending into the south doesn't prevent northerners from migrating out of the delta and northern portions of the Valley if they want. It wouldn't prevent climate change and the immigration of Near Easterners who populated the Delta to survive. I'm talking about why Egypt's people genetically were a certain way. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE] Egypt depended more on assimilation of more southern people than Northern ones. So why on earth would Levantines dominate in AE during this time more than Southerners? Look at the tombs of Beni Hasan, they don't show any Levantines there outside of the FOREIGNERS you showed in the picture. If Levantines were truly as dominant in Egypt as you say they would have depicted themselves as such and elevated Levantine ancestry and culture to dominance and they did not because the Southerners kicked out such invaders. [/qb] [/QUOTE]We really don't know how great Levanite mixture was in the most densely populated areas of southern Egypt. However looking at cranial analysis, Levanite affinity was gradual and happened over time. And because a people were assimilated into a southern culture during the process of becoming part of the state, the state remained part of the identity of the people even as demographics changed. Changes in the south didn't have to happen simply by foreign invasion, but in combination with Levanite influenced/transplanted lower Egyptians were migrating throughout THEIR country. Beforehand their culture was considered technologically behind the south. Now they had a chance to move into the valley being of the same citizenship as the valley dwellers. Why do you think they couldn't they over the span of 1,000 years move further south? [qb] [QUOTE]You cant just make up facts at will to try and change the flow of AE history. None of the facts I mentioned are new facts. They have always been there. People pretending this handful of DNA changes something is the problem. Not to mention if you find mummies that re unquestionably black and African with U5 then what? [/qb][/QUOTE]Then that means "blacks" weren't really bound to Africa and weren't always related to modern Sub Saharans. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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