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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tyrannohotep: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: @Tyrannohotep It's not just a "few mtDNAs". Please reread what I said about predynastic and dynastic Egypt in the "when to use 'black' thread". Specifically, my comments in regards to EEF ancestry and change from the 1st dynasty onwards. [IMG]http://i64.tinypic.com/29c8fon.png[/IMG] We've also had this conversation more recently. Topic: Ancient Tanzanian Pastoralist results... VERY interesting stuff! http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009796;p=2#000096 Topic: Ancient Tanzanian Pastoralist results... VERY interesting stuff! http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009796;p=2#000101 [qb]If you don't want to accept this kind of evidence showing change[/qb], that's one thing. But we've discussed this many, many times. There should be no reason for anyone to surprised, at this point.[/QUOTE]Apologies for sounding defensive, but if this line was addressed towards me, I don't think I ever denied at least some degree of change over the course of dynastic history as a result of increased Eurasian admixture. Who knows, maybe we'll find out I was wrong about Eurasian mtDNA haps in pre-New Kingdom Egypt amounting to "a few". When I wrote my previous post, my expectations were based on beyoku's leaked Old to Middle Kingdom data. That list had "a few" unambiguously Eurasian uniparentals speckled among the African ones. [/qb][/QUOTE]So, you think that a representative sample of AE throughout the dynasties will have an uniparental profile that is more African, or at least significantly more African than non-Omotic/non-Nilo-Saharan Ethiopians? We are clearly talking about different things when we are talking about change. Based on your Tut reconstruction, it is no wonder that you're surprised by this U5 carrier. Sometimes it looks like you get it but other times you say something in regards to dynastic Egypt and you completely lose me. As far as the illustration I posted, it shows Egyptians of the Lower Egyptian morphological type (or, at least, samples dominated by/averaging as that type) on a cline between Egyptians of the Upper Egyptian type (predynastics and dynastics) and Europeans (Cretan). The samples of the Lower Egyptian type include samples from Upper Egypt (e.g. Thebes). So Upper/Lower Egyptian in this context really means morphological type, not geography. As far as the numbers, larger numbers mean more phenotypical distance. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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