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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tyrannohotep: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa: There has literally never been a time or place that science has been separate from politics, religion, or nationalism/ethnocentrism. Science and scientist always have a p.o.v., agenda or stated philosophy, if you dig deep enough you will find it. In the west there is no just "benevolent" use of science, it will either be capitalized or weaponized as a tool of economic or political domination at some point. A view that scientific knowledge or the pursuit thereof is an untouched moral high-ground is naivete in the extreme.[/QUOTE]Last time I checked, it took scientific inquiry like Keita's to challenge the Eurocentric model of ancient Egyptian origins. Even Diop appealed to science when making his arguments. Not to mention, "Out of Africa" wouldn't even be a theory without science digging up the data to back it up. It is true that individual scientists can have biases that persuade them to misinterpret data, but you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater here. [/QUOTE]Certainly, protoscience and science-minded individuals predate modern racism, nationalism and other things she mentioned. [/QUOTE]No, just no.... tribalism/ethnocentrism, nationalism predate everything, [qb]it is the base human need for self interest and survival.[/qb][/QUOTE]What, and the science implied in making nature work for you to make tools, medicine and hunting weapons is not a base human need for survival? :rolleyes: [QUOTE]There is no where you would find "science" void of context and culture.[/QUOTE]Even if that is true, which is not what you originally argued, but even if that is true, science has never supported anyone's pre-conceived politics. People have tried, but they failed. Anyone trying to marry science with their brand of pre-conceived politics sooner or later finds himself with his pants down. So trying to reduce science to politics is just a fallacy. Science has never supported anyone's pre-conceived political agenda. [/qb][/QUOTE]Some might says that the Out of Africa theory supports an African political agenda as and also the concept of Egypt being the first large scale "civilization" that therefore Africans should be respected as the originators of modern humanity and civilization [/QB][/QUOTE]
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