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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] The people who created Cheddar Man called him black. [b]They are scientists.[/b] They are Europeans. English is a European language. Black is defined in the English dictionary. That is the only "standard" that applies. Nobody anywhere was complaining about how they used the term because they didn't understand what they meant. They didn't say "Cheddar Man black" because no such term exists in English. That is something you made up. Likewise when National Geographic said "Black Pharaohs" they didn't say "Nubian Black" they just said black. Nobody was confused about what they meant...... Just saying. English is a major language and most English speakers understand what black means just fine. THey use it every day in popular culture, media, the news, history books and everywhere else... That line of reasoning is stupid. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's the thing. Whenever European scientists or scientists in general use racial labels or terms I always have retain some skeptecism. That Cheddar Man was dark skin is not in doubt but the question was exactly [i]how[/i] dark was he?? Was he dark enough to be truly labeled as "black". Recall the genetic findings of the 7,000 year old La Brana hunter-gatherer showing them to have dark skin and blue eyes, yet nobody except Afronuts were quick to call them "black". I mean unlike Egyptian mummies whose intact skins were subject to melanin dosage tests and found to be "packed with melanin", we only have bones of the Old European hunter gatherers and remnant DNA with autosomes showing they didn't have the mutation for pale skin. The reason for my skepticism is that I'm aware that European academia now has for lack of a better phrase, a "left wing" bias based on multiculturalism in a way as to proclaim a black or even Muslim presence in early Europe. [/qb][/QUOTE]Thats not the thing. Like I said people use the term everyday in English language cultures all over the planet. You see it in movies like "Get Out". You see it in popular culture like Hip Hop: Fear of a Black Planet. You see it in social justice movements like "black lives matter". It means dark skinned people from Africa. Just like "white" means light skinned people from Europe. Nobody is confused about what that means when used for AE. It only means people who have similar dark skin complexions as the majority of the populations of Africa. When people are complaining or arguing and spending a lot of time whining about the term "black", it really isn't about the word. It is about the underlying definition and what it means in terms of skin complexion. Everbyody knows that Africans have a wide range of dark skin complexions. So when somebody is arguing and stalling or otherwise pushing back on using the term, the only reason they are doing it is because they don't feel the underlying definition applies to AE. So basically we are back to the same old issue that was always the core problem: skin color. Did the AE have light skin like Europeans and other "Eurasians" or did they have dark skin like Africans? That's all. It isn't a language issue. People know that but they use the issue of semantics and language to simply hide and not expose their true hand. This is why some folks can appear pro African but still be on the fence when it comes to the AE being black (and this goes even for some black folks). And yes science can answer the question about the skin color of the AE, especially on individual mummies. The point is though that there is no "technicality" that defines when a color is dark enough or light enough to be called black. If the skin color is dark and the result of biochemical changes in melanin related to AFRICAN DNA evolution then it is black according to the current definition of the word. By that definition Khoisan are black, just like Alicia Keys is black and Sade is black. And it is consistent. Now if people want to make up new ways of defining black outside what is in common usage within the English language, then that is just another stalling tactic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbFwnwptBnA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a7Z8Q43cfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmyRQIiF2A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzNWgn8F8_g [/QB][/QUOTE]
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