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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elite Diasporan: [qb] @Swenet this seems to be up your alley. [/qb][/QUOTE]First thought. [IMG]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mary_Prendergast2/publication/278400421/figure/fig3/AS:267753466626075@1440848809439/Distribution-of-early-archaeobotanical-evidence-for-sorghum-pearl-millet-and-broomcorn.png[/IMG] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278400421_Indian_Ocean_Food_Globalisation_and_Africa [/qb][/QUOTE][QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [...] What I said about Sahelian crops likely doesn't even apply to these samples. I guess that's what I get for speaking before reading the paper. [/qb][/QUOTE]I thought you meant Iron Age by that map, considering the legend's AD delimited shapes (though the map's primary focus is 2000 BC) and the increase in E1 from Iran/Turan Bronze to South Asia Iron as Elite Diasporan posted [IMG]http://pichoster.net/images/2018/03/31/30730acd660b268fbc983f972e1eaee5.png[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elite Diasporan: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [qb] No AA... It's likely a west or Sahelian African connection of some sort E1a + E-M2. [/qb][/QUOTE][...] However, do you also mean E1b too for[URL=http://emph] the Sahelian African connection[/URL]? [/qb][/QUOTE]The E1b samples are E1b1a E-[b]Z6019[/b] & [b]Z6006[/b] <-- Both primarily senegambian These haplogroups and E1a/M33 generally travel together. [/QUOTE]. This Mohenjo Daro statue might represent some one of the is it Indian is it African cranial type found at Chanu Daro. Here the hair lets us know she's not a teenage Nuba, I mean besides the provenance. [IMG]http://mediastore.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR6/6/a/5/f/LON82430.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://mediastore4.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR2/e/4/f/6/PAR296033.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Dancing_girl.jpg/328px-Dancing_girl.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [...] Indians have unexplained genetic closeness to Africans. Closeness that goes beyond Basal Eurasian. ... academics need to pursue the leads that have already been uncovered. For instance, possible Bronze Age skeletal remains of Africans in the Indus Valley: [QUOTE]The human cranium from the Mature Harappan site of Chanhu-daro presents archaeologists with a unique funerary practice by the Indus peoples. While jar burials have been encountered in Early and Mature Harappan sites and continued into the Post-urban Jhukar culture, the Chanhu-daro cranium indicates it was a secondary burial. The cranium is not associated with postcranial bones of the original body. These had been disposed of elsewhere, possibly at a significant time prior to the insertion of the cranium into the jar. Anthropometric and morphological analyses indicate that the cranium belonged to a young female in relatively good health as based upon absence of skeletal and dental markers of a pathological nature. The manner of her death is unknown. [i]The hypothesis that the Chanhu-daro female was of African ancestry is supported by the results of comparative data from ten cranial-bearing from ancient and modern South Asia.[/i][/QUOTE][b]Were There Commercial Communications between Prehistoric Harappans and African Populations?[/b] https://file.scirp.org/pdf/AA20120400001_65541719.pdf Although I'm not convinced that it's easy to distinguish Indus Valley people from Africans using craniofacial analysis. Any skeletal analysis is not completely convincing IMO, because of that reason. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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