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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [IMG]https://snag.gy/dwKri5.jpg[/IMG] Let me get out the way completely and let you explain in your own words. Which of the components do you see as carrying the elevated Neanderthal? Because, the way I see it, there aren't a lot of options. You've already argued against it being linked to any of the SSA-related components.[/QUOTE]I’m not gonna lie this is a stupid way to look at this but I’ll entertain it.. everything but the purple and burgundy... Now if you are telling me that the green 100% represent NE african admixture you’ll have to start explaining. [QUOTE]This is my thing with some of the things you say. This is simply not true. Where do you get this information? The samples with the least Neanderthal are Dinka and Mota. These are East African populations. Many other East Africans have Eurasian admixture, so of course they have more Neanderthal. If their Neanderthal tracks closely with their non-African ancestry, what relevance do you see in bringing this up? If you want to argue that ancient NE Africans can't cause a BE-like drop in Neanderthal, you can't use this data for obvious reasons. It's highly misleading. ALL Africans are just as capable of causing Neanderthal-like drops in relation to their African ancestry. A 50% African Afram will cause (proportionally to their African ancestry) the same drop in Neanderthal as a 100% West African population. The amount of Neanderthal an African population has does not affect their ability to cause drops in Neanderthal in relation to their African ancestry.[/QUOTE]Given that we don’t have any good reps of a pure african group with Ancient Nile valley ancestry, I’ll concede this point. However recently it has been shown that mota’s Neanderthal estimates exceeded YRI since the call back... Also you should check loosdrecht 2018 table S7. Stay updated fam. Everything I haven’t addressed above I obviously agree with. It just failed to register to you that I beleive that NE Africans were probably one of the weakest group of (“unadmixted”) Africans at reducing Neanderthal cuz they probably carried low amounts. And that some of the SSA caried in taforalt, Natufians etc. Came from them also. This shouldn’t be that hard to understand. [QUOTE]What isn’t novel is Neanderthal estimates being higher in populations we know have NE african admixture than the ancient Iranians etc. Examples? [/qb][/QUOTE]Taforalt, Natufians, PPNB, and some Early European farmer groups. Now I’ve been speaking as if I have the burden of proof for saying BE=/= NE african. You haven’t came up with an answer for the discrepancy not only in Neanderthal admixture among these sources but the lack of signals/clustering of BE in Eurasian populations in light of North African genomes. ...why hasn’t the component revealed itself yet? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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