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[QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tyrannohotep: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [qb]I think people need to have a better understanding of the archaeology to have a good foundation and know what some of these things mean. I think "the pillars" of my foundation and understanding are strong enough so all this new age genetic data that is symbolic of "heavy material on the second floor" will never cause my whole "house to collapse". What I am waiting to see as far as genetics is NOT "Who they were"...the archaeological and anthropological data has already told me that....I am trying to see how the genetic data fits within the framework of what I already understand about the culmination of events in the last 14,000 years. The potters, the pastoralists, the hunter-gathers, the aqualithic cultures and their colonization of, and migration out of the Sahara into the Nile Valley and Sub Saharan Africa. Over the years, the more I have read, the less i feed like i personally have a vested interest. There was a time where i wasn't "comfortable" with Horn Admixture...or Berber admixture in Fulani, or Archaic admixture in SSA. In 2018......Fvck it...follow the data...everybody is mixed. [/qb][/QUOTE]Thing is, the archaeological data can mislead, or it can be misread. For example, over four years ago, I would have been of the opinion that the Khartoum Mesolithic culture of central Sudan was ancestral to the ancient Egyptian civilization. In the four years since then, I've come to realize that the Khartoum Mesolithic people were probably closer in affinity to modern South Sudanese Nilotes than to AE or any other Afrasan population. This would mean any similarity in material culture between the Khartoum Mesolithic and later Egyptian populations (that I perceived anyway) would probably reflect intercultural borrowing or influence rather than the former evolving into the latter. I agree that pre-existing archaeological and anthropological data must be taken into account when making sense of aDNA findings. But when it comes to archaeology in particular, it can be too easy to misinterpret the data or to read things into it that aren't there. [/qb][/QUOTE]I guess it depends on how far one wants to take the data (genetic homogenization). But I try not to speak in absolutes and at times revert back to the "pots are not peopkl" idea. I would argue certain CULTURAL elements we find in Khartoum Mesolithic were influential in the Sahara and later spread into the Nile Valley in a clockwise pattern. It provided the OPPORTUNITY for different humans to mix. We could then move to physical remains and see how frequent the older Sudanese type (Jebel Sahaba) follow that path if at all. I see the same thing with the cattle cult and certain Sudanic and Sahelian crops. I just see this as the opportunity for Nilotic type Admixture on their base. Similarly i see the SW Asian agricultural package with sheep and goats incorporated into Africa as an OPPORTUNITY for different humans to mix.....they whole "they was 100%" is kinda stupid from the get go. IMO Egypt was the crossroads of genetic Africa in the same way Sudan hold that position today. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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