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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [QB] Another nonsequitor response. U keep talkin color & while doing it ignore [URL=http://y]color mutation is one way from dark to light[/URL]. That's as far you'll try to drag me into your all light Beringian hypothesis. That very dark skinned Indians, like the California ones, derive from lightskin Asians contrary to known human pigment science. Else please inform, any precision welcome. I'm talking facial features from two skinless skulls. I'm talking associated DNA so-called Paleo vs contemporary. PaleoIndian AmerIndian genetic dichotomy is false. Both share genomes similar enough to be common. We're left with geographic populations. We see Ainu/caucasoid looking Ancient One as one type of early North American Indian. Then there's Melanesian/australoid featured Luzia as one of South America's early type of Indians. Both are from the same breeding population that entered America from Beringia, distinct from CircumPolar peoples who came to the land. That's what should draw comments. It's red herring to attach color argumentation, singularly, after quoting me. Just shy of strawman illogic. [URL=http://y][b]My paradigm[/b] Beringia housed various phenotypes all so far of same general genotype differing in looks between Ainu and Oceanics. They were either dark or varied from dark to light before entering America's Pacific Northwest. To some extent they were mariners. Kelp Forests along Pacific America sustained many of their needs and supported rapid southern expansion. [/URL] Without Hapsberg's thread I never woulda pulled the pieces together. Still, something's up with Ainu looks north and Oceanic ones south. Mimics the case of Asia. Why? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tyrannohotep: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] [b]The Ancient One[/b]: genetically ancestral to North American Indians, racial biased phenotype bigots be damned. [IMG]https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016/05/04/kennewick-man-13c6d91bf06945837ef13d7447d558559dadad63-s800-c85.png[/IMG] Someone previously posted Luzia's skull fossilized completely to stone. If that's a fact, then like that ES member says, Luzia's DNA does not exist. If Luzia in fact had DNA like other contemporaneous same locale finds then she'd be proof an East Asian genome existed in an Oceanic featured person. Apparently, so far, PaleoIndian and AmerIndian are biologically the same race geographically from the same place. Colorwise, can lightskin mutate to dark skin? As I have learned it, biological possibility dictates the only change is from dark to light. Please inform. I accept precisions. Fact trumps ego. Until precised on group skin color development, the original First Americans were complexioned like California Indians. All lighter shades came well after Beringia unless variety already existed then and there. If the population consisted of marine adapted ethnic cultures they all could've been very dark. The rapid spread from Aleutia to Patagonia entails sea migration. Pacific coastal Americas had extensive kelp forests making quick spread and color retention plausible speculations. [/qb][/QUOTE]My assumption has been that at least part of the lighter skin found in most Native Americans today was inherited from their common ancestors with Northeast Asians. That's why I haven't been so crazy for the claim that they were still "black" upon moving into the Americas from Beringia. I would be more open to that argument if one could show that the relatively light skin in Natives today evolved separately from what you see in their East Asian relatives. That said, I wonder what ethnic group this individual (whose photo Baalberith posted) comes from? I know Euronuts like to use suntanning to write off AE depictions of themselves as cocoa or mahogany-skinned, but I wouldn't rule out a suntan in the case of this Native American guy. What do other people in his nation look like? [IMG]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3553/3325331743_08c2f659b9_b.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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