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how do translators decide on ancient Egyptian vowels? Is it random?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Asar Imhotep: [qb] @ Djhuti [IMG]http://www.hieroglyphtranslation.com/hieroglyph_alphabet/egyptian_hieroglyph_letter_w.png[/IMG] is not a /u/ sound, but a /w/ and can be seen by the fact that in intervocalic position, it's allophone is /m/. For example, mnmn "to move about, to shift" > wnwn "to move to and fro; to traverse."[/qb][/QUOTE]From what I understand the w sound is made when u is attached to another vowel, but what is the connection to the consonant m? [QUOTE][qb]The sound-law is m > w /V__V. In other words, a process of lenition occurs when /m/ is inbetween two vowels. Thus, we know the original word was VmVn-VmVn > VwVn-VwVn, where V is any (V)owel. This is one clue to know why M-E is different from Coptic.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes v is phonetically close to w as is shown in sound shifts in Indo-European languages, but I am still confused as to where the m comes in. [QUOTE][qb]Secondly, [IMG]http://www.hieroglyphtranslation.com/hieroglyph_alphabet/egyptian_hieroglyph_letter_a.png[/IMG] is not a vowel, it is a consonant. It is the nasalized uvular trill [ʀ], which explains its interchange with both [r] and [n]. You need to learn the transliteration system of Egyptology as we transliterate [ʀ] as <A>. The <a> (lowercase) grapheme is a totally different sound. [/qb][/QUOTE]Where did you get this? r is represented by this: [IMG]http://www.hieroglyphtranslation.com/hieroglyph_alphabet/egyptian_hieroglyph_letter_r.png[/IMG] and n is represented by this: [IMG]http://www.hieroglyphtranslation.com/hieroglyph_alphabet/egyptian_hieroglyph_letter_n.png[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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