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"Lola" reconstructed from birch "gum", blue eyes and dark skin.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Baalberith: [b]Alright, so be it. Let's agree to disagree about what the accurate phenotype for Europeans of the Upper Paleolithic was.[/b] But, if you have to ask me about what would be the most appropriate appearance for Europeans of the Mesolithic/Neolithic eras would be, my best guess would be the La brana reconstruction, since Europeans of that period wouldn't have been that much different than their modern predecessors, except for hue. The skin color cline of Europeans who were naturally dark skinned would be no more darker than La brana Man and no less than say your lightest example of a olive complexion. [/QUOTE]1. I don't think the disagreement is on the accurate phenotype of UP Europeans, the disagreement is whether or not they look like they can fit in with modern populations, to which my stance is an unequivocal; no. 2. I agree that we should look at the la Brana specimen as a starting point for her and like samples, but I disagree with the reasoning. See, the La Brana artwork has the skin tone of modern populations who are known to have derived slc24a5... There's no evidence to suggest he should even be that light. If it's the skin-tone that has you sold on his accuracy then we are in disagreement. I'm looking more at the nasal bridge and brow ridges as well as the thickness of the upper lips and zygomatic arches. [IMG]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/414C/production/_106461761_mediaitem106461760.jpg[/IMG] ..Take this Neolithic reconstruction for example. It encapsulates some of the physical characteristics of Europeans at the time with the predicted skin tone of someone who at least partially carried ancestral snps for pigment related genes. Moreso than most, if not all reconstructions adopted from physical remains of the Upper paleolithic, she, as she should, approaches the phenotype of a modern, "mixed" population. But the artist didn't model her after Contemporary black populations in Africa or elsewhere which is something I agree with. Lioness is right when she/he/they said that children have features to soft to scrutinize for accuracy. And as I said before Lola isn't [i]that[/i] bad of a re-imagining... BUT from my PoV, if a stoneage reconstruction can fit well into any modern population especially if it's one with a historically post neolithic culture... then we have a red flag. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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