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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TubuYal23: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudanese: essentially a death-knell to notions of a 'black' Egypt.[/QUOTE]What a foolish notion, their study isn't going to prove anything just like it didn't the first time. Though it did show the depth with which these researchers will go in order and use sensualistic titles for their headlines in regards to the racial makeup of AE. And now their back for more. Hopefully, this time they don't use Roman era enslavement. The truth is there will never be a death-knell for "black" ancient Egypt. The people of that continent and their ancestors have been on this earth for close to 200,000 to 100,000 years. So, until OOA is disproven, the origins of the AE being native to the land and apart of the greater African population, will remain true. Still, these studies are cute exercises, but I highly doubt they did 4,000 years of research that in anyway proves that all or even a quarter of the AE population can be represented by the mummies buried in the remote area of Abusir el-Meleq. It's the height of being nonsensical, especially if the basis of their conclusion for them not being "black" comes down to the premise of "Eurasian" mtDNA. Without even attempting to involve ancient East African components into the study. As a clue to the so called "Eurasian" element. ...... "[i]The issue of how much Paleolithic migration from the Near East there may have been is intriguing, and the mitochondrial DNA variation may need to be reassessed as to what can be considered to be only of [b]“Eurasian origin"[/b] because if hunters and gatherers reamed between the Saharan and supra-Saharan regions and Eurasia it might be difficult to determine exactly "where" a mutation arose[/i] " [b]In Hot Pursuit of Language in Prehistory ed. by John Benjamins.(2008)[/b] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/w25ISkI.png[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by BrandonP: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudanese: [qb]If Neolithic Kenyans were that Eurasian shifted, how and why would you think that Egyptians that didn't absorb and acquire significant Nilotic and hunter-gatherer genes could be black? [/qb][/QUOTE]I doubt all their "Eurasian-like" ancestry was actually Eurasian. Some of it may be, but a good chunk of it is probably North African from proto-Afroasiatic speakers. I'm looking at [URL=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6827346/]the text of the paper right now[/URL], and out of 41 samples, only five have mtDNA haplogroups of unequivocally Eurasian origin (since you seem to be fixated on mTDNA). The rest are either L or M1 (the latter an originally stay-at-home African lineage IMO). Sorry, but this probably isn't the "death knell" you're thinking of. [/qb][/QUOTE]These ppl are always looking for that "death knell" to the blackness of AE and it continues to blow up in their faces. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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