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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SlimJim: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by SlimJim: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by SlimJim: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Archeopteryx: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by SlimJim: It was answered on the first page.[/QUOTE]Maybe someone have something more to add, or someone who have not participated in this thread yet want to post something? [/qb][/QUOTE]It doesn't seem like much has been added, IDK how the convo turned to the Etruscans and Olmecs but either way. Outward physical features are reflected in metric analyses, if you want to know what kind of features the ancient Egyptians had, and what modern groups they are closest to in regards to this, look at metric studies. Nubians, Bejas, Somalis and Afro asiatic speaking Ethiopians/Eritreans fit pretty well. [/qb][/QUOTE]Metric results don't show this + you generalize all of ancient egypt based on simply a few predynastic samples from upper egypt ? If we want to see how they looked like we simply have to admire how they depicted themselves and none of what they produced looked like modern horners [/qb][/QUOTE]"a few pre dynastic samples" lol, since the 19th century early ancient Egyptians have been grouped with Horn Africans on the basis of metric craniofacial data, the clustering of ancient Egyptians and Horn Africans continues into the dynastic period in the south and is acknowledged and accepted by mainstream anthropologists. Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves as very similar to the people of Punt, which included Eritrea to Eastern Somalia, either way, we can argue about data but I'm not getting into who the ancient Egyptians depicted themselves closest to, because it's largely subjective and you'll just start spamming cherrypicked lightskin artwork. [/qb][/QUOTE]Again idk what you're talking about Datas are clear : Pre-Dynastic and 12th-29th Dynasty Egyptians cluster with modern Afghans and modern North Indians on the edge of a larger cluster of modern Europeans and modern West Asians. (Hanihara T and Ishida H, (2005)) The Predynastic of Upper Egypt and the Late Dynastic of Lower Egypt are more closely related to each other than to any other population. As a whole, they show ties with the European Neolithic, North Africa, modern Europe, and, more remotely, India, but not at all with sub-Saharan Africa, eastern Asia, Oceania, or the New World. (Brace, C. L., D. P. Tracer, L. A. Yaroch, J. Robb, K. Brandt, and A. R. Nelson. 1993.) Let alone the non-metric datas... you seem to be confused by the fact that horners are already clustering with other west eurasian groups and modern upper egyptians still cluster with east africans still do they look Like horners to you ? Obviously no. So stop we wuzzing it's cringe at this point especially that your folks have a prestigious history I don't see the point of larping as egyptian respect yourself. [/qb][/QUOTE]That Hanihara study is a metric dental analysis, this is how I know you haven't read that paper, also, it doesn't mean anything in regards to their phenotype and it doesn't mean much when it comes to genetics, I can tell you haven't read that Brace study either, look at the dendrograms, when Brace says Sub Saharan he's referring to his Haya, Gabon, Dahomey and Zanzibar sample, not the Somali sample. When have I claimed to be Egyptian? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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