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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Thereal: [qb] The Mediterranean also encompasses parts of Africa,how are you forgetting that?😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫🙄🙄🤔🤔 [/qb][/QUOTE]His profile isn't north african and there are no black population native to the mediterranean part of Africa. Americans...smh [/qb][/QUOTE]Thereal, don't forget Antalas is a Euronut stooge who believes in the 'blacks in Sub-Sahara only' fallacy. It doesn't matter if there are historical texts from Greeks and Romans describing coastal Libyans and Egyptians as 'black' such as [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009496]Didyme[/URL] or the fact that there are clear Sub-Saharan lineages prominent in Mediterranean Europe like paternal E-M78 in Southeast Europe or E-M81 in Southwest Europe and even subclades of maternal L as even Eupedia admits. https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29211-New-map-of-mtDNA-haplogroup-L [b]LOL[/b] :D [/qb][/QUOTE]Sub-saharan ?? The oldest E-m78 samples were found in North Africa and that HG peaks in modern day north africa. E-m81 peaks in modern day NW africans and it's ancestral clade has been found among IAM. L lineages ? Literally compose 20-40% of our mtDNAs XD [QUOTE] [b]Phylogeographic analysis of the E-M81 lineages in Mediterranean populations has shown these lineages to be remarkably frequent in Berbers (80% in Mozabites; 65–73% in Berbers from Morocco) (Cruciani et al. 2004; Semino et al. 2004)[/b] although their frequency declines sharply towards the north east (Egypt ffi5%). E-M81 lineages are practically absent in Eastern Europe (Pericic´ et al. 2005) and uncommon in Italy, with the exception of Sicily (5.5%) (Semino et al. 2004) where there was an Islamic occupation that lasted for over two centuries (878–1091 AD)" [/QUOTE] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/03014460903229155 [QUOTE] [b]This, together with the fact that the oldest indigenous inviduals have been dated 2210 ± 60 ya, supports a local origin of E-M183 in NW Africa.[/b] Within this scenario, it is also worth to mention that [b]the paternal lineage of an early Neolithic Moroccan individual appeared to be distantly related to the typically North African E-M81 haplogroup30, suggesting again a NW African origin of E-M183.[/b] A local origin of E-M183 in NW Africa > 2200 ya is supported by our TMRCA estimates, which can be taken as 2,000–3,000, depending on the data, methods, and mutation rates used. [/QUOTE] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-16271-y?fbclid=IwAR23g0zmbdtMZ1hpL8YA_W1vnccjR3KBM600akdwBhXixQ8YfWvD-6y_yGY#Sec2 [QUOTE] [b]Regarding the sub-Saharan African component, Algeria (20%) is at the same level as Morocco (20.4%) and Egypt (22.9%) but significantly lower (p = 0.003) than Tunisia (30.1%) and marginally lower (p = 0.059) than Libya (27.1%). Aside from the widespread haplogroup L2a, the majority (14%) of Algerian L lineages (L1b, L2a1, L2b, L2c, L3b, L3d) are of West Africa origin. Those from Central Africa (L1c, L3e, L3f) account for an additional 5%, leaving around 1% for those of East African ancestry (L0, L3*, L4).[/b] It has been suggested that these lineages reached North Africa since Holocene times, when climatic amelioration permeated the Saharan desert. However the historical trans-Saharan slave trade promoted by the Arabs may have been mainly responsible for their present day incidence [9], [76]." [/QUOTE] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0056775 [QUOTE] [b]On the other hand, the frequencies of haplogroups E-M78 and E-M123 are much higher in northeast Africa exhibiting a focal point of extreme frequencies in Egypt-Palestine[/b] (Figures 2b and c, respectively) [/QUOTE] https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg201499 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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