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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ I was just going to say people tend to misuse metric affinities as proof of genetic affinities when we can clearly see that depending on the data collected, Sub-Saharans usually group with Australian Aborigines and Nubians with South Indians while Egyptians are intermediate with Nubians and Europeans but in the case of the latter particularly Neolithic Europeans who had North African admixture. So if we are just comparing populations by craniofacial metrics you get various trends or groupings. What's interesting is that not only do Sub-Saharans group with Aboriginal Australians but together they group closer to East Asians first before North Africans and Europeans! In fact this is something that both Eurocentrics and Afrocentrics tend to forget or ignore. East Asian affinities aside, Eurocentrics love to stress the distance of modal Sub-Saharans to that of modal North Africans which is something some Afrocentrics who deny African phenotypic diversity tend to ignore. By the way, the modal or statistically based archetype is [b]different[/b] from racial stereotype. For example North African crania may be "negroid" in appearance due to certain features but when their metric traits are all added up they are still very different from 'typical' Sub-Saharan types like West and Central Africans. Swenet has tried to explain this many times like with the quotes below: [i] The indications of exclusion, however, are much easier to interpret. For example, [b]the likelihood that either the Giza or Naqada configuration could occur in West Africa, the Congo, or points south is vanishingly small-0.000 and 0.001.[/b][/i] --Brace 1993 [i]We collected measurements for a single specimen from what was called the Nubian X Group in Reisner’s terminology (Reisner, 1909). This was a population that immediately preceded the early Christian Nubians of AD 550 (Carlson and Van Gerven, 19791, and, in the subjective treatment of a generation gone by, [b]had been regarded as evidence for a “Negroid incursion"[/b] (Batrawi, 1935; Smith, 1909; Seligman, 1915). As our figures show, [b]the probability of finding our representative specimen in a Sub-Saharan population is 0.009, which is highly unlikely.[/b] Its column loadings are generally similar to the loadings in the column for the Predynastic Naqada sample, and, except for the fact that it is only marginally unlikely that it can be excluded from the Giza sample, [b]it cannot be denied membership in the Naqada, European, or South Asian samples.[/b][/i] --Brace 1993 So "Negroid" or as Keita calls it "southern" is not synonymous with the modal or stereotypical Sub-Saharan type. But the same can also be said about "Mongoloid" with Mongolians and other North Asians being metrically distinct from other East Asians. [i]Ironically Mongols are the least typical examples of East Asians. 'Mongoloid' then is not a good way to characterize the cluster of East Asian peoples.[/i]--Brace 1993 [IMG]https://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lb1.png[/IMG] [i]A Euclidean Distance dendrogram or cluster diagram demonstrating the atypical status of Mongols when compared with representative samples of the other inhabitants of East Asia. The values for the measurements were converted into C scores and compared by Unweighted Matched Pair Group Analysis (IJMPGA). The procedure was pioneered by Howells (1986) and is described in greater detail in Brace and Hunt (1990).[/i] [IMG]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael-Pietrusewsky/publication/222416365/figure/fig2/AS:586748568567808@1516903168665/Diagram-of-relationship-dendrogram-based-on-a-cluster-analysis-UPGMA-of-Mahalanobis.png[/IMG] ^ Interestingly Mongols and other North Asians are as divergent from other East Asians as Wadi Halfans are to other Sub-Saharans. [URL=https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1002/ajpa.1330360603]Clines & Clusters vs. "Race"[/URL] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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