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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] Read the definition again, Nationalism is not synonymous with having a nation although there is overlap[/qb][/QUOTE]I've read the definition and even knew what it was before reading it. Nationalism is the promotion of a nation and its interests and culture. What other interests and culture would a nation promote other than its own?? [QUOTE][qb]Nationalism leads to domination of minorities and war. They often try to portray themselves as victims defending themselves as they dominate and invade, the victors write the history[/qb][/QUOTE] :eek: Here it is again [IMG]https://images2.imgbox.com/70/a5/CDncfx6g_o.png[/IMG] Pray tell where in the definition you provided does it say anything about war and domination of minorities??! And again, do you deny the victimhood of Egypt under the Hyksos-Kushite alliance?? So it's okay for the Hyksos and Kushites to conquer and divide Egypt between themselves but it's not okay for Egypt rise up and retaliate against them both? Your argument is as nonsensical as saying tribalism is about domination of families and communities and leads to warfare with other tribes. You realize that before nation states existed, there were tribes and tribal warfare and within a tribe or ethnic group there was possible feuding between different clans or families. As long as groups existed there was conflict for varying reasons but it wasn't because of the very existence of the group itself! [QUOTE][qb]You can call me a commie feminist but I have not mentioned women, feminism or communism[/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] I never called you any label but merely questioned what position you are coming from, since I happen to hear the same type of rhetoric from mindless college girls who may or may not identify as commie feminist. By the way, communism and it's subsect of feminism is a social weapon created by powerful elites to subvert societies and economies and take them over. Young naive women are often used as pawns for their engineering. [QUOTE][qb]The Egyptians were not the romanticized version, [IMG]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F2b%2F27%2Fbb%2F2b27bbd38ce1dc2bb95e1e3746eaa32e.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5b33a566aa7fbeb88bf375e4981a4f78b2af5f5d5d2d031668731745232edcd9&ipo=images[/IMG] [IMG]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Ffb%2F53%2F6d%2Ffb536d5c796813c4fe9c8d846469559c.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a68ac07c65df01d2079a54c77fdf086b65eb688e8cf7f0fbe82c9027d61c89ee&ipo=images[/IMG] [IMG]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.immediate.co.uk%2Fproduction%2Fvolatile%2Fsites%2F7%2F2022%2F11%2FGettyImages122221963-efe4394.png%3Fquality%3D90%26fit%3D620%2C413&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=96ad2d5b0aa74af7337447e8311655a8a0cf3108f55aafb059bb491cc39c8356&ipo=images[/IMG][/qb][/QUOTE]Indeed, and NEVER have I romanticized them. When have I ever expressed the idea that Egyptians were some pacifists who never resorted to violence?? Egypt is a nation and like any nation utilized violence to its own ends especially self-preservation. [QUOTE][qb] [IMG]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F474x%2F28%2Fb1%2Fb0%2F28b1b05ee8542bc1890496d7f3f9b08f--historical-pics-tutankhamun.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=d16faefc08c9af0499cc0be26ddef72d872fe21e48101128a94bf43f077a8812&ipo=images[/IMG] imagine the mentality of this, making slippers with your enemies depicted, that you force to pay tribute and step on, add to this footstools with foreigners depicted[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes it's called execration magic! It's a form of magic ritual practiced in other parts of Africa where enemies are depicted in ritually denigrating ways so as to deprive them of power so they would no longer be a threat. And what exactly would YOU do with hostile peoples? Ritually make dolls of them to hug and kiss? [b]LOL[/b] [QUOTE][qb]And what did they use most of their labor for? Huge useless monuments monuments to their "divine" leaders of no benefit to the people [/qb][/QUOTE]I thought it was made clear to you before that slaves (foreign enemies) were NOT used for building projects of sacred monuments since such was considered desecration. Only free Egyptian citizens were conscripted to build sacred monuments to the gods including kings. Slaves were used for other forms of labors, though there is debate about Biblical traditions of Hebrew slaves. Wars are costly and when enemies are defeated their labor was used as reparations-- this was the original purpose of slavery of enemies. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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