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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: When Brandon sent me this info the day after it came out I told him I was not at all surprised by the results. the Euronuts have been favoring aDNA over uniparental markers, since the latter has already shown the African influence in both Southwest Asia and Europe (Yhg-E-M35 & mtDNAhgs- L2 & N1), while with the former they can disguise or hide it by labeling such autosomal markers as "Eurasian" while using the IBD Yoruba markers representative for "Sub-Saharan" and thus genetic 'true Negro'. [/QUOTE]Those african uniparentals are still found in the region (they also have their own specific subclades) yet these populations aren't physically similar to most sub-saharan africans. Moreover yes aDNA should be favored simply because it provides a more comprehensive picture of our genetic makeup. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: Of course Egyptians as northeast Africans won't have the same autosomal profile as West/Central Africans! Nobody in this forum has said otherwise, but neither do Northeast Siberians have the same autosomal profile as Chinese yet nobody denies that Northeast Siberians are still East Asian and NOT Amerindian even though their autosomal profile is most similar to Eskimos![/QUOTE]Bad example. Northeast Siberians are genetically and morphologically much closer to other east asians than west africans are to Northeast africans. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: Note that Loosdrecht's graph includes South African Aborigines put a whole new perspective because West Africans are closer to the North African/West Eurasian cluster than they are to South Africans. Also note in the Ks that East African Hadza have [b]no[/b] IBD markers associated with typical Sub-Saharans and that some of their markers are found in Taforalt as well as Natufians and other West Eurasians! [/QUOTE]Why do you obsess over this ? The fact that west africans plot closer to eurasians than south africans won't make north africans (whether modern or ancient) any closer to west africans than other eurasians. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Fregel's graph expands the North African population further, showing Taforalt and early Neolithic IAM of Morocco being closer to East Africans.[/QUOTE]Here Fregel states that IAM plots closer to modern north africans, europeans and middle easterners : [QUOTE] [b]When projected on a PCA space built using modern samples from Europe, the Middle East and North and Sub-Saharan Africa, all IAM, KEB and TOR samples cluster close to North African, Middle Eastern and European populations, respectively[/b] (Figure S6.3). It is worth mentioning that IAM samples clustered in an intermediate position between modern populations of North Africa and the Later Stone Age samples from Morocco excavated in Taforalt43.[/QUOTE] https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/suppl/2018/06/11/1800851115.DCSupplemental/pnas.1800851115.sapp.pdf [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: Lastly, the only reason why North Africans cluster closely with West Eurasians (Southwest Asians & Europeans) in the first place is because the latter received admixture from the former, hence why West Eurasians don't cluster as close to East Eurasians and why they carry some African lineages. This was first noted back in the 90s by [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010361;p=2#000051]Cavalli-Sforza[/URL]. [/QUOTE]the only reason ? Didn't you say I was a "european admixed" amazigh ? What happened to the light skinned farmers spreading cardial culture in the Maghreb ? What happened to the Dzudzuana-like ancestry of Taforalt ? What happened to the Bell beaker settlers and central mediterranean farmers that settled there during the 3rd and 2nd millenia BC ? Seriously go seek mental health assistance. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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