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[QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] Yeah, they knew excactly what "Nubti" was and what it implies...Nubti=A PErson from Nubt, i.e Kom Ombos [IMG]https://media.tenor.com/76j9fsC3n0UAAAAC/hmm-thinking.gif[/IMG] But Naw bro, the Egyptians were too stupid to depict Seti correctly, they're just playing games, depicting him with dark skin and he tying his lineage to Ta-Seti/The South... Yeah Dog, Lets speculate what Seit looked like...Derp [IMG]https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/036/102/881/small/curtis-durane-8.jpg?1616719139[/IMG] ^^^^ Did he look like this...hurr hurr...derp... [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] ^ The Ramesides at least their paternal origins are local to the [b]Delta[/b] not Upper Egypt. While the cult of may originally be southern in origin, his cult was adopted by many in the Delta including foreigners from Asia since Set was a god of the desert and thus many people of desert nomad ancestry adopted him their patron deity. [/qb][/QUOTE]Again this is mostly speculation. The closest thing we have to a document on the ancestry of the Ramessids is the year 400 stela and that stela has very clear statements tying Set to Nubt as it states point blank "Set Nubti". And it also makes it clear that Seti was "great of the Medjay" and "chief of the Archers which could suggest southern origins as Medjay have always been associated southerners. Not sure how desert nomads adopting set worship even factor into this unless people are simply speculating and trying to suggest that the Ramessids where desendants of these nomads when there is no evidence for it. Again, the iconography of the year 400 stela does depict Set in asiatic fashion, but outside of that, the text itself does not suggest Asiatic origins for the deity or the family worship of the deity. [QUOTE] [b]Since the discovery it was obvious that the Year 400 of Nubti was not a regnal year, but rather a sort of anniversary. Giving the 400-years interval and the explicit references to the god Seth, Nubti was initially considered an othervise unattested Hyksos ruler. Thus, it was suggested that the 400th anniversary could refer to an important event such as the construction of a temple of Seth, or, more generally, to the beginning of a new era. The discovery also fueled the now-disproven hypothesis that Tanis had to be identified with the ancient Hyksos capital Avaris, and that the stela may have been a commemoration of the arrival of the Hyksos.[/b] In more modern times, however, scholars realized that the official Seti is none other than Ramesses' father Seti I in his early career, and the earlier king Nubti was not a real king, but rather Seth himself provided with fictitious royal titles. Going 400 years back before the period suggested by the stela (most likely when Seti was an official under king Horemheb), gives a datation of the celebrated event of around 1730–1720 BCE.[/QUOTE] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_400_Stela Bolded parts indicating how at one time the Ramessids were claimed to be blonde/red headed descendants of Asiatics or Hyksos who worshiped Set. Mostly due to speculation more than anything else. And beyond that the suggesting that the deity was depicted in "asiatic" form are also mostly speculation and wishful thinking. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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