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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the Lioness: ^^ compiling both abstracts we see all the mummies were from [b]Turin[/b] and Berlin[/QUOTE]This got my attention too, as I distinctly recalled that the predynastics with signs of sickle cell also come from a museum in Turin. Also, from another study I read years ago, I know that some or all of the predynastic mummies there come from Gebelein. [/QUOTE]They also said some of these mummies were at the Egyptian Museum and Papyrus Collection of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin. (Ägyptisches Museum und Papyrussammlung) but I don't see mummies listed there (?) [URL=https://www.smb.museum/en/search/?tx_smbsearch_search%5Baction%5D=result&tx_smbsearch_search%5Bcontroller%5D=Result&cHash=95549f77af5d69cb0902cdc4a9c94e77]LINK[/URL] ⚫ in this study, we analyzed samples taken from 99 ancient Egyptian mummified or skeletonized individuals housed in the collections of the Museo Egizio of Turin and the Egyptian Museum and Papyrus Collection of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin. The Turin ones are probably all non-royals. They say 99 ancient Egyptian mummified or skeletonized individuals. I'm guessing the vast majority are not mummies but instead skeletons. I've just seen 2 Turin mummies on wiki's lists but I'm not sure if there are more. With recent methods they seem to use teeth a lot for sampling [/qb][/QUOTE]Good sleuthing work. For more info I would suggest looking for papers that studied the Turin and Berlin mummies, as opposed to museum catalogues. Among other things you'll find that Turin has a large collection of pred. mummies from Gebelein and part of it includes actual mummies, as in Gebelein Man ('Ginger') level of preservation. [/qb][/QUOTE][QUOTE]Originally posted by mightywolf: I believe that further details from the published studies will demonstrate the context of several results. Here are the haplogroups from the leak: Old-Middle Kingdom: J F1826 DER J F3119 DER J F3176 DER J FGC1599 DER J1 CTS1138 DER J1 PF4659 DER J1 PF4667 DER J1 F4320 DER J1a PF4772 DER [b]Middle Kingdom (Djehutynakht):[/b] G2a F2529 DER G2a P15 DER G2a2a PF3159 DER G2a2a PF3167 DER G2a2a PF3168 DER Dynastic: E1b1b1 CTS3637 DER E1b1b1 CTS6298 DER E1b1b1 M5322 DER E1b1b1 M5360 DER E1b1b1b2 PF1961 DER E1b1b1b2 CTS11781 DER [/QUOTE]If the mummies and skeletons are from Turin and Berlin museums why is Djehutynakht listed here? That is a mummy head in Boston Museum of Fine Arts https://collections.mfa.org/objects/144861 _______________________ Look at this image from somalispot.com where they talk about the leak >> https://www.somalispot.com/attachments/tomb_of_djehutynakht_7-jpg.294390/ Page: https://www.somalispot.com/threads/ancient-egyptian-g25-results.154114/page-5 There is a picture of a Djehutynakht statue (11-12th dyn) and it says G2a2 that is one of the haplogroups in the above supposed leak info. ____________________________________ 2018 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5867856/ [b]Biological Sexing of a 4000-Year-Old Egyptian Mummy Head to Assess the Potential of Nuclear DNA Recovery from the Most Damaged and Limited Forensic Specimens Odile Loreille, et al[/b] In order to unequivocally determine the biological sex of the individual, the MFA collaborated with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Laboratory to perform DNA analysis. The mtGenome profile independently obtained from the tooth by the FBI and HMS laboratories were identical and can be found in Table S2. The haplotype (deposited in GenBank under accession number MG736653) belongs to [b]mitochondrial DNA lineage U5b2b5[/b] ____________________________ ^^ the Y-DNA of Djehutynakht has not been published yet, just the mtDNA (U5). The leak is saying G2 same haplogroup as reported by Yehia Gad 2020 for Yuya of the 18th dynasty [/QB][/QUOTE]
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