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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [qb] Djehuti. Vahaduo genetic distances are gobbledygook. Please leave the Miro.Cisms on twitter. That aside [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010910;p=1#000022]you hit the nail on the head here[/URL] and such results can easily be reflected in the Genetic data we have available. Vahaduo ain't it. [/qb][/QUOTE]Look, I'm not saying these genetic distance programs are the be-all end-all, but they do offer [i]some[/i] value. If you look at the results for East Eurasians especially Australasians, they parallel the results for Africans and West Eurasians which is why Euronuts avoid bringing it up. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Askia_The_Great: [qb] I dated Horners(mainly Somalis, yes its possible ;) ) and I have Ethiopians in my family thru marriage. I agree Ethiopian hair is much more "kinkier" though still not full blown kinky(4 type) like Niger-Congo speakers. Whereas Somalis have more wavy hair including the men. Somali women also braid their hair less compared to Afro-Asiatic speaking Ethiopian women. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] Somalis have less Eurasian, but also less Sub-Saharan and more (insert non-SSA component [Natufian-like, Ethiosomali, take your pick]) than Ethiopians. [i]This IAC is colored dark green on the figure and is referenced here as “Ethio-Somali”. This Ethio-Somali IAC is [b]found at its highest frequencies in Cushitic speaking Somali populations[/b] and at high frequencies in neighboring Cushitic and Semitic speaking Afar, Amhara, Oromo, and Tygray populations. This IAC was not identified in the source study for the HOA SNP data [16], but Tishkoff and colleagues [59], in an analysis of an independent autosomal microsatellite dataset, did recover an equivalent IAC (calling it “Cushitic”). While this Ethio-Somali IAC is found primarily in Africa, it has clear non-African affinities (Text S1).[/i] Early Back-to-Africa Migration into the Horn of Africa (2014) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4055572/ Should not be a mystery in 2023 after countless discussions on African components that are neither SSA nor Eurasian. [/qb][/QUOTE]This makes a lot of sense especially when you take into account the geography. Using history... The Oromos for example were absorbing A LOT of ethnic groups including non-AA speakers. [/qb][/QUOTE]The autosomal data shows the presence of a substrata, perhaps several that were absorbed by Neolithic (Afroasiatic speakers) such as the Hadza, Mota, etc. There is even a Dinka-like marker not necessarily Dinka found in many Somali. [IMG]https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8d0a816e1f64fbefc825e965215e19dc[/IMG] The relevant point Swenet makes is that these markers differ from those labeled as "Sub-Saharan" even though they may very well originate in Sub-Sahara. But you are correct about the Oromo. The Oromo ethnicity is further subdivided into [URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oromo_subgroups_and_clans]tribes and clans[/URL] with the 2 biggest divisions being the Borana and Barento. The same with the [URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Somalia]Somali[/URL] with the 2 largest divisions being Samaal and Sab. Both peoples use the same segmented patrilineal system with certain clans being labeled as "vassals" or subserviant clans adopted into the ethnos. The same system is seen in Berbers of the Sahara except theirs is matrilineal. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa Bey: [qb] And what do their teeth show? Do teeth always match one to one on DNA ancestry? [/qb][/QUOTE]Who? The Dogon?? I have no idea. As far as I'm aware of the Dogon exhibit typical "Sub-Saharan" i.e. "negroid" morphology so I assume it's the same with their odontics though I don't know of any odontic study on them. But in regards to your second question, I created this thread-- [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010059]Odontics Same as Genetics[/URL], which shows a strong correlation between nonmetric odontic traits and genetic relations. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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