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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] ^I think we're talking about different things. For instance, I already stated [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010928;p=1#000047]here[/URL] that I'm aware of mainstream views on this subject. Unless I can get those claims confirmed by an authority on ancient Jewish beliefs and practices, I don't trust mainstream western sources on the subject of occult undercurrents in the bible, as westerners have their own historical baggage with pagans and the occult (e.g. burning of 'witches') and biases against so-called 'primitive' and 'superstitious' practices, and will often mix their own cultural and church establishment views with those of scripture. According to the OT, Moses was instructed in all the occult arts of the Egyptians, and this knowledge was not used against him by the authors of the bible. Moses went toe to toe with Egyptian court magicians in a faceoff, but mainstream sources will claim Moses was somehow not doing what the Egyptians were doing, because 'that would be magic, and we all know the god of Israel is against magic' :rolleyes: . The bible actually never says this, and claims to the contrary are mostly non-Jewish sources who think they can get the full meaning of ancient texts that belong to a foreign culture, simply because they possess the physical document and can translate the words. This is where the hubris becomes a joke that is on them because, as non-Jews, they're missing the oral transmissions that are supposed to go along with the texts. [i]Some of these have left writings, but the honest scholars studying these texts will admit that they [b]cannot be penetrated to any meaningful depth.[/b][/i] I bet close reading of the relevant Hebrew verses will similarly reveal that the bible at best has astro sceptical portions in specific contexts (e.g. denouncing pagan cultures they considered as being on the wrong path of which unchecked astrology was merely a symptom, not the problem itself). But to my awareness this does not amount to prohibiting astrology. But we can agree to disagree. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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