this piece came from Mohenjo Daro A bronze "Dancing girl" statuette, 10.8 cm high and some 4,500 years old, was found in Mohenjo-daro in 1926. In 1973, British archaeologist Mortimer Wheeler described her as his favorite statuette: "There is her little Balochi-style face with pouting lips and insolent look in the eyes. She's about fifteen years old I should think, not more, but she stands there with bangles all the way up her arm and nothing else on. A girl perfectly, for the moment, perfectly confident of herself and the world. There's nothing like her, I think, in the world." John Marshall, one of the excavators at Mohenjo-daro, described her as a young ... girl, her hand on her hip in a half-impudent posture, and legs slightly forward as she beats time to the music with her legs and feet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohenjo-daroPosts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Sanskrit is NOT the oldest Indo-European language. It is one of the oldest recorded but only the 3rd oldest recorded. The oldest record I-E language is Hittite language Nesili whose earliest record is found in 16th century BC Cuneiform texts. The 2nd oldest recorded I-E language is Greek first recorded in Linear B script of the early 14th century BC. Sanskrit is the 3rd oldest recorded in the late 14th century in Cuneiform but NOT in India but in the ancient kingdom of Mitanni in today's northern Syria!
The European language that Sanskrit shows the most affinities with is Baltic languages like ancient Lithuanian. That does not mean that Sanskrit or Lithuanian are the oldest period. I-E languages probably developed in Russia or north of the Caucasus because the greatest diversity and number of subfamilies exist in Europe but the largest and most diverse subfamily is Indo-Iranian which include the languages of Iranic as well as Indic peoples.
Did you read what i said?!?! I said Sanskrit is oldest of "Indo Aryan and Indo Iranian" languages in South and Central Asia not the first or the second.
The ealriest recored Indo European langauges are from Hittie civilization and then the Hellenic of Anatolia and then Vedics of India.
Genetically Indo Aryans are probably purest from of original Indo Europeans as its only them who carry R1a1/R1a in high % unlike Eastern and Western Europeans and Anatolian Turks and the DNA originated in South Asia in Northern India on foothills of Himalayas Uttarakhand before they invaded Indus Valley R1a1/R1a is totally absent in light eyed and light haired people in Afghanistan or Iran they carry J2 same as semitic people and Ashkenazi Jews and rare among other Indo European Speakers and The original Indo Europeans were dark to olive skinned and dark eyed and dark haired and that is exactly how they depicted themselves in their texts and their Gods.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: I did not say they were Dravidians Truthcentric want to see if there ware Blk skinned folks to the north hence the pic http://media.nowpublic.net/images//1e/1/1e1e997a0650abb086f7f5499fc117df.jpg Northeastern India in the state of Orissa not waay north mind you but far from the South.
http://www.arthistory.upenn.edu/smr04/101910/Slide4.10.jpg this piece came from Mohenjo Daro A bronze "Dancing girl" statuette, 10.8 cm high and some 4,500 years old, was found in Mohenjo-daro in 1926. In 1973, British archaeologist Mortimer Wheeler described her as his favorite statuette: "There is her little Balochi-style face with pouting lips and insolent look in the eyes. She's about fifteen years old I should think, not more, but she stands there with bangles all the way up her arm and nothing else on. A girl perfectly, for the moment, perfectly confident of herself and the world. There's nothing like her, I think, in the world." John Marshall, one of the excavators at Mohenjo-daro, described her as a young ... girl, her hand on her hip in a half-impudent posture, and legs slightly forward as she beats time to the music with her legs and feet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohenjo-daro
Yes i do but stange enough it mentions it has " Balochi like face" Balochis are Iranic people only small population within these Iranic people are Dravidian and they are Brahui people.
The Austro Asiatic people haven't done anything beyond living in tribe like society and still do unlike Indus Valley people/Dravidian people and the Indus Valley civilization art and city planning flourished again only in South India After the Invasion.
Those busts clearly look Dravidian than they look like Austro Asiatic people. That sculpture art is very Dravidian black/green/gilted Bronzes.
Sculpture of ruling family of South India Only Dravidians did bronze iconagphy of themselves in South Asia. Queen sculpturs of deitis Posts: 18 | Registered: Apr 2011
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quote:Language is NOT the same as people. Dravidian languages are likely indigenous to India. Indo-European derived languages like Sanskrit or not. There are BLACK I-E speakers as there are non-black or even fair-skinned Dravidian speakers. Fair skin is NOT native to tropical regions like India but black skin is. Therefore, do the math. As I said, India has experienced many migrations and suffered multiple invasions. Yes these have not altered the Indian population by and large because the population by and large is still dark, but do you really believe these fair-skinned people represent the aboriginal peoples or their traits??
Dravidians are likey?!? Dravidians are the indigenous people of South Asia as much as Austro-Asiatic, Tibeto-Burman and Negrito tribe of Andaman Island.
Dravidian's originally dwelt in modern day Indus Valley before I-E Invasion and that region is certainly not "tropical"
Vast majority of Dravidian's range between these two kind of people just like vast majority of South and Central Asia same as the Ancestral Dravidian tribe Toda and Kota i posted in page 1 who dont look any different from Dravidian people today.
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mummies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
You are a delusional nazi clown! And I take you as a joke!
The nubian mesolithic: A consideration of the Wadi Halfa remains
Meredith F. Small*
Department of anthropology, University of Colorado, Boulder,
Morphological variation of the skeletal remains of ancient Nubia has been traditionally explained as a product of multiple migrations into the Nile Valley. In contrast, various researchers have noted a continuity in craniofacial variation from Mesolithic through Neolithic times. This apparent continuity could be explained by in situ cultural evolution producing shifts in selective pressures which may act on teeth, the facial complex, and the cranial vault.
A series of 13 Mesolithic skulls from Wadi Halfa, Sudan, are compared to Nubian Neolithic remains by means of extended canonical analysis. Results support recent research which suggests consistent trends of facial reduction and cranial vault expansion from Mesolithic through Neolithic times.
Focus on Archeology ACADEMIA, No. 1 (1) 2004.
The Megaliths of Nabta Playa Mysteries of the South Western Desert
"The Late and Final Neolithic societies of the South Western Desert lived in a symbiotic relationship with their agricultural counter- parts in the Upper Nile Valley. This relation- ship is clearly seen in the presence of many imported goods from the Nile Valley, and perhaps also in a multiethnic character of the desert population. Yet the ceremonial center of Nabta Playa also shows that at least some of the roots of ancient Egyptian be- liefs, magic and religion are present there."
"Perhaps the most convincing tie between the myths and religion of Ancient Egypt and the Cattle Herders of the South Western Desert are the groups of Nabta Basin stelae. The stelae here face the circumpolar region of the he- avens. According to the early Egyptian mortu- ary texts known as Pyramid Texts, this is a pla- ce where the stars never die and where there is no death at all. This is the region of Dāt, the goal of the deceased, the Field of Offerings, in which the departed will live as an “effective” spirit."
"The well-organized and usually very worrisome desert herders, probably speaking the same or a similar language as the people in the Nile Valley, when pu- shed towards the relatively crowded Valley inhabited by traditionally peaceful peasant societies, may have served as catalysts for these processes."
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''He probably thinks these ancient Saharans were white "Caucasoids" though'' ====
I only claimed Caucasians are native to North Africa.
Why were the gaunche people of the canaries described as pale skinned and blonde by the Spanish before they were exterminated?
Why are the Libyans described as red, auburn and blonde haired in ancient greek literature?
Why is the Libyan depicted on the book of gates (1500 BC) as pale skinned with blue eyes?
An Examination of Nubian and Egyptian biological distances: Support for biological diffusion or in situ development?
Homo. 2009;60(5):389-404. Epub 2009 Sep 19.
Godde K. Department of Anthropology, University of Tennessee,
"The clustering of the Nubian and Egyptian samples together supports this paper's hypothesis and demonstrates that there may be a close relationship between the two populations. This relationship is consistent with Berry and Berry (1972), among others, who noted a similarity between Nubians and Egyptians. If Nubians and Egyptians were not biologically similar, one would expect the scores to separately cluster by population (e.g. Nubians compared to Nubians would have small biological distances, and Nubians compared to Egyptians would have high biological distances). However, this was not the case in the current analysis and the Results suggest homogeneity between the two populations."
DNA analysis shows that Egyptians group with African peoples from the Sudan, Ethiopia, East Africa and parts of Cameroon, not with Europe or the Middle East.
Notes on E-M78 and Rosa DNA study linking Egyptians with East and Central Africans. DNA study (Rosa et al. 2007) groups Egyptians with East and Central Africans. Other DNA studies link these peoples together.
Quote:“the majority of Y chromosomes found in populations in Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia and Oromos in Somalia and North Kenya (Boranas) belong to haplogroup E3b1 defined by the Y chromosome marker M78“(Sanchez 2005). Codes: Egy=Egypt. Or= Oromo, Ethiopia. Am=Amahara, Ethiopia. Sud=Sudan. FCA=Cameroon. Maa= Massai, Kenya.
Note: Eighty (80)% or more of the haplotypes in Cameroon are of West African origin (Rosa et al. 2007, Cerny et al. 2006). Ethiopia, Cameroon and most of the Sudan is located below the Sahara, and thus sub-Saharan.-- Rosa, et al.(2007) Y-chromosomal diversity in the population of Guinea-Bissau. BMC Evolutionary Biology. 7:124
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How are you going to claim that he is a mutt? Yet call North Africa caucasian? While North Africa had multiple invasions. ps. Morocco, Libya, Tunis...
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mummies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature
Michelle H. Raxter1,*, Christopher B. Ruff2, Ayman Azab3, Moushira Erfan3, Muhammad Soliman3, Aly El-Sawaf3
"We also compare Egyptian body proportions to those of modern American Blacks and Whites... Long bone stature regression equations were then derived for each sex. Our results confirm that, although ancient Egyptians are closer in body proportion to modern American Blacks than they are to American Whites, proportions in Blacks and Egyptians are not identical... Intralimb indices are not significantly different between Egyptians and American Blacks...brachial indices are definitely more ‘African’... There is no evidence for significant variation in proportions among temporal or social groupings; thus, the new formula may be broadly applicable to ancient Egyptian remains." ("Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature." Michelle H. Raxter, Christopher B. Ruff, Ayman Azab, Moushira Erfan, Muhammad Soliman, Aly El-Sawaf,(Am J Phys Anthropol. 2008, Jun;136(2):147-5
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mummies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
Napata and its Amun sanctuary remained the kingdom’s chief religious center and the premier site of all royal coronations. Well into the Common era, Jebel Barkal was thought to be the main Nubian seat of the god Amun, who conferred kingship upon the rulers of Kush – a kingship believed by its possessors to have descended, in that place, directly from the sun god Re at the beginning of time.
III. A. The Nature of Amun and the Mysteries of Jebel Barkal.(Amen)
It is clear from a complex surviving iconographic and textual record that from early Dynasty 18 the Egyptians assigned Jebel Barkal an outsized religious and political significance because of its peculiar shape. It is perhaps the unique Egyptian religious site that allows us to perceive how Egyptian religious beliefs were influenced by the natural landscape. The isolated hill evoked in the Egyptian mind the Primeval Mound of popular myth, on which Creation was thought to have taken place. “Proof” of the presence here of Amun as Creator was evident to ancient onlookers in the towering, statue-like pinnacle on its south corner (fig. 23), which, when viewed from different angles at different times of the day, suggested to them the forms of many different divine beings or aspects, all of which combined to confirm the presence and protean nature of the god, whose very name meant “Hidden.”
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mummies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
Then a king will come from the South, Ameny, the justified, my name, Son of a woman of Ta-Seti, child of Upper Egypt, He will take the white crown, he willjoin the Two Mighty Ones (the two crowns)
Asiatics will fall to his sword, Libyans will fall to his flame, Rebels to his wrath, traitors to his might, As the serpent on his brow subdues the rebels for him, One will build the Walls-of-the-Ruler, To bar Asiatics from entering Egypt...
The Oxford history of ancient Egypt "Then a king will come from the South"
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mummies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
Wadi Kubbaniya (ca. 17,000–15,000 B.C.)
In Egypt, the earliest evidence of humans can be recognized only from tools found scattered over an ancient surface, sometimes with hearths nearby. In Wadi Kubbaniya, a dried-up streambed cutting through the Western Desert to the floodplain northwest of Aswan in Upper Egypt, some interesting sites of the kind described above have been recorded. A cluster of Late Paleolithic camps was located in two different topographic zones: on the tops of dunes and the floor of the wadi (streambed) where it enters the valley. Although no signs of houses were found, diverse and sophisticated stone implements for hunting, fishing, and collecting and processing plants were discovered around hearths. Most tools were bladelets made from a local stone called chert that is widely used in tool fabrication. The bones of wild cattle, hartebeest, many types of fish and birds, as well as the occasional hippopotamus have been identified in the occupation layers. Charred remains of plants that the inhabitants consumed, especially tubers, have also been found.
It appears from the zoological and botanical remains at the various sites in this wadi that the two environmental zones were exploited at different times. We know that the dune sites were occupied when the Nile River flooded the wadi because large numbers of fish and migratory bird bones were found at this location. When the water receded, people then moved down onto the silt left behind on the wadi floor and the floodplain, probably following large animals that looked for water there in the dry season. Paleolithic peoples lived at Wadi Kubbaniya for about 2,000 years, exploiting the different environments as the seasons changed. Other ancient camps have been discovered along the Nile from Sudan to the Mediterranean, yielding similar tools and food remains. These sites demonstrate that the early inhabitants of the Nile valley and its nearby deserts had learned how to exploit local environments, developing economic strategies that were maintained in later cultural traditions of pharaonic Egypt.
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mumm ies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
Origins of dental crowding and malocclusions: an anthropological perspective.
Rose JC, Roblee RD.
Compend Contin Educ Dent. 2009 Jun;30(5):292-300.
The study of ancient Egyptian skeletons from Amarna, Egypt reveals extensive tooth wear but very little dental crowding, unlike in modern Americans. In the early 20th century, Percy Raymond Begg focused his research on extreme tooth wear coincident with traditional diets to justify teeth removal during orthodontic treatment. Anthropologists studying skeletons that were excavated along the Nile Valley in Egypt and the Sudan have demonstrated reductions in tooth size and changes in the face, including decreased robustness associated with the development of agriculture, but without any increase in the frequency of dental crowding and malocclusion. For thousands of years, facial and dental reduction stayed in step, more or less. These analyses suggest it was not the reduction in tooth wear that increased crowding and malocclusion, but rather the tremendous reduction in the forces of mastication, which produced this extreme tooth wear and the subsequent reduced jaw involvement. Thus, as modern food preparation techniques spread throughout the world during the 19th century, so did dental crowding. This research provides support for the development of orthodontic therapies that increase jaw dimensions rather than the use of tooth removal to relieve crowding.
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mummies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
Determination of optimal rehydration, fixation and staining methods for histological and immunohistochemical analysis of mummified soft tissues
A-M Mekota1, M Vermehren2
Biotechnic & Histochemistry 2005, 80(1): 7_/13
"Materials and methods In 1997, the German Institute for Archaeology headed an excavation of the tombs of the nobles in Thebes-West, Upper Egypt. At this time, three types of tissues were sampled from different mummies: meniscus (fibrocartilage), skin, and placenta. Archaeological findings suggest that the mummies dated from the New Kingdom (approximately 1550_/1080 BC)...... The basal epithelial cells were packed with melanin as expected for specimens of neriod origin."
History in the Interpretation of the Pattern of p49a,f TaqI RFLP Y-Chromosome Variation in Egypt: A Consideration of Multiple Lines of Evidence,
"ABSTRACT
The possible factors involved in the generation of p49a,f TaqI Y-chromosome spatial diversity in Egypt were explored. The object was to consider explanations beyond those that emphasize gene flow mediated via military campaigns within the Nile corridor during the dynastic period. Current patterns of the most common variants (V, XI, and IV) have been suggested to be primarily related to Middle Kingdom and New Kingdom political actions in Nubia, including occasional settler colonization, and the conquest of Egypt by Kush (in upper Nubia, northern Sudan), thus initiating the Twenty-Fifth Dynasty. However, a synthesis of evidence from archaeology, historical linguistics, texts, distribution of haplotypes outside Egypt, and some demographic considerations lends greater support to the establishment, before the Middle Kingdom, of the observed distributions of the most prevalent haplotypes V, XI, and IV. It is suggested that the pattern of diversity for these variants in the Egyptian Nile Valley was largely the product of population events that occurred in the late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene through the First Dynasty, and was sustained by continuous smaller-scale bidirectional migrations/interactions.
The higher frequency of V in Ethiopia than in Nubia or upper (southern) Egypt has to be taken into account in any discussion of variation in the Nile Valley. Am. J. Hum. Biol. 17:"
Haplotypes and percentages Region (n) IV V XI VII VIII XI XV Lower Egypt (162) 1.2 51.9 11.7 8.6 10.5 3.7 6.8 Upper Egypt (66) 27.3 24.2 28.8 4.6 3.0 0.0 6.1 Lower Nubia (46) 39.1 17.4 30.4 2.2 2.2 0.0 0.0 1From Lucotte and Mercier (2002).
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''Native Egyptian with the same skin and features as the the so called "Red" White Nordic" Egyptians....LMAO' ====
No, that' is a typical modern egyptian mutt, a mix of arab and negro.
The indigenous egyptians were Caucasian.
You never answered why the pre-dynastic mummies in the British Museum have straight long ginger and auburn hair if they were negro.
NUBIA AND EGYPT- Nubians and Egyptians were so close in various eras that they were virtually indistinguishable
“The ancient Egyptians referred to a region, located south of the third cataract the Nile River, in which Nubians dwelt as Kush.. Within such context, this phrase is not a racial slur. Throughout the history of ancient Egypt there were numerous, well documented instances that celebrate Nubian-Egyptian marriages. A study of these documents, particularly those dated to both the Egyptian New Kingdom (after 1550 B.C.E.) and to Dynasty XXV and early Dynasty XXVI (about 720-640 BCE), reveals that neither spouse nor any of the children of such unions suffered discrimination at the hands of the ancient Egyptians. Indeed such marriages were never an obstacle to social, economic, or political status, provided the individuals concerned conformed to generally accepted Egyptian social standards. Furthermore, at times, certain Nubian practices, such as tattooing for women, and the unisex fashion of wearing earrings, were wholeheartedly embraced by the ancient Egyptians." (Bianchi, 2004: p. 4)
'It is an extremely difficult task to attempt to describe the Nubians during the course of Egypt's New Kingdom, because their presence appears to have virtually evaporated from the archaeological record.. The result has been described as a wholesale Nubian assimilation into Egyptian society. This assimilation was so complete that it masked all Nubian ethnic identities insofar as archaeological remains are concerned beneath the impenetrable veneer of Egypt's material; culture.. In the Kushite Period, when Nubians ruled as Pharaohs in their own right, the material culture of Dynasty XXV (about 750-655 B.C.E.) was decidedly Egyptian in character.. Nubia's entire landscape up to the region of the Third Cataract was dotted with temples indistinguishable in style and decoration from contemporary temples erected in Egypt. The same observation obtains for the smaller number of typically Egyptian tombs in which these elite Nubian princes were interred.(Bianchi, 2004, p. 99-100)
- Robert Bianchi ( 2004). Daily Life of the Nubians. Greenwood Publishing Group
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To Simha, this thread is about ancient Egyptians. If you want to discuss Indian population history, I suggest you create a thread on the topic.
To Ish Gebor, the problem is that 'Nubia' is a large region that was inhabited by a variety of African peoples of various features. It is generalization to say that Egyptians looked different from Nubians or that they didn't. Really it depended on upon which Nubians. Some groups especially in Lower Nubia were closely related to the Egyptians. The predynastic kingdom of Ta Seti for example and its inhabitants the Setjau preceded the kingdoms of Upper and Lower Egypt. Once dynastic Egypt came to power, Ta Seti was even incorporated as the very 1st nome of Egypt. Why is that? It is because the first pharaohs came from there. Even in the Archaic period of the first part of the Old Kingdom, many royal families came from southernmost Egypt in or around Ta Seti. Some Nubian families were the founders of certain dynasties in the Middle Kingdom and even the New Kingdom as founded by Sekenenra's clan have 'Nubian' ancestry or connection. The point is Nubians and Egyptians do have common ancestry. As for Castrated's point about Mummies having auburn hair, that was explained to him countless times. Who cares.
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The reason why I show this info is because Nubia is the foundation of Egypt.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: To Simha, this thread is about ancient Egyptians. If you want to discuss Indian population history, I suggest you create a thread on the topic.
To Ish Gebor, the problem is that 'Nubia' is a large region that was inhabited by a variety of African peoples of various features. It is generalization to say that Egyptians looked different from Nubians or that they didn't. Really it depended on upon which Nubians. Some groups especially in Lower Nubia were closely related to the Egyptians. The predynastic kingdom of Ta Seti for example and its inhabitants the Setjau preceded the kingdoms of Upper and Lower Egypt. Once dynastic Egypt came to power, Ta Seti was even incorporated as the very 1st nome of Egypt. Why is that? It is because the first pharaohs came from there. Even in the Archaic period of the first part of the Old Kingdom, many royal families came from southernmost Egypt in or around Ta Seti. Some Nubian families were the founders of certain dynasties in the Middle Kingdom and even the New Kingdom as founded by Sekenenra's clan have 'Nubian' ancestry or connection. The point is Nubians and Egyptians do have common ancestry. As for Castrated's point about Mummies having auburn hair, that was explained to him countless times. Who cares.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: To Simha, this thread is about ancient Egyptians. If you want to discuss Indian population history, I suggest you create a thread on the topic.
To Ish Gebor, the problem is that 'Nubia' is a large region that was inhabited by a variety of African peoples of various features. It is generalization to say that Egyptians looked different from Nubians or that they didn't. Really it depended on upon which Nubians. Some groups especially in Lower Nubia were closely related to the Egyptians. The predynastic kingdom of Ta Seti for example and its inhabitants the Setjau preceded the kingdoms of Upper and Lower Egypt. Once dynastic Egypt came to power, Ta Seti was even incorporated as the very 1st nome of Egypt. Why is that? It is because the first pharaohs came from there. Even in the Archaic period of the first part of the Old Kingdom, many royal families came from southernmost Egypt in or around Ta Seti. Some Nubian families were the founders of certain dynasties in the Middle Kingdom and even the New Kingdom as founded by Sekenenra's clan have 'Nubian' ancestry or connection. The point is Nubians and Egyptians do have common ancestry. As for Castrated's point about Mummies having auburn hair, that was explained to him countless times. Who cares.
I was replying to the posts in this thread about Dravidians and Indus Valley civilization.
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