Oh btw I think the movie powers dat be is beginning to come around, the last couple of flicks I saw on Roman Briton was replete with Blacks I am now watching Camelot 2011 it have all kinds of collod folks up in deh.
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stop the lies & denial..you created the king george thread & made a comment about multi-culture.
so you know why this thread was created & now your behaving like a youtuber & making this personal.
You know that lioness has an intelligence report? well google has an intelligence report on me..
My position is extremely clear. while you have resorted to lies & slander when your manifesto is examined.
Do you really wish to prolong this?
It's your call if you want to continue.just copy my exact quotes as proof..
But you best recruit your toxic racist bnp sychopants cause i'm well prepared & i wont hold back.
Let me give you an example.
hint 1 ####
Is it ok for a " chaste " christian to have long hair? understand?..... How can a humble christian be banned from christian forums.
you have nothing on me so just forgot it.But i will never tolerate your immature christian revisionist creationist racism.
Take google's advice. . . .
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:Originally posted by element: when i wake up & go about about my daily duties i never have to think about my origin or hue. The minute i log on i encounter people like you who are obsessed with my origins & activities . Theirs a website called chimpout where people just tweet & twitter about blacks all day.
Don't lie. You are obsessed with race, hence why you admitted you waste your time on youtube debating white nationalists.
You are a multiracialist who spends his time obsessed with white people who want to preserve their race. Does it upset you not everyone wants to mix? Otherwise i don't see your obsession with debating/harassing white nationalists.
quote:Ive also examined your prolific internet christian creationist revisionist racist trail.
Many of those posts are not mine.
quote: your didactic comments & falsified posts will never ever get by me.Ive dissected & dismantled you in many threads since ive arrived without slander or insults.
You've done nothing but made an idiot of yourself in this thread. I also don't understand the purpose of this thread in the first place. Is there even a point to this debate?
All i merely said is that you are an immigrant after you admitted you are one and that your grandparents only arrived recently in UK from a foreign country.
You are not British. Deal with it.
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quote:Originally posted by element: [QB] stop the lies & denial..you created the king george thread & made a comment about multi-culture.
Never said i didn't. I claimed that the other forums you claim to have found me on, or read posts elsewhere i supposedly made - are mostly not mine. For example fstdt.com has a whole load of quotes attributed to me i never wrote. They were made up in a poor attempt to make me look stupid.
quote: My position is extremely clear. while you have resorted to lies & slander when your manifesto is examined.
What Manifesto?
If you are refering to the BNP's, bear in mind according to polls the vast majority of people agree with their policies.
94% of people in Britain want an end to mass immigration. Its simply common-sense, its people like you who are in the extreme minority.
quote: But you best recruit your toxic racist bnp sychopants cause i'm well prepared & i wont hold back.
BNP are not racist, nor am i.
quote: Is it ok for a " chaste " christian to have long hair?
I don't know, secondly i'm not a Christian. I've never been to church and have had no interest in theology. My interest in the Bible is strickly geneological based and i like Christian Identity/British Israelism.
quote:understand?..... How can a humble christian be banned from christian forums.
If you are talking about evolutionfairytale forum i left there 1 - 2 years back. Its not a Christian forum, its a place to debate the evolution vs. creation debate.
quote: you have nothing on me so just forgot it.But i will never tolerate your immature christian revisionist creationist racism.
I don't know what you've been reading. You've obviously gone to websites that have either lied about me or secondly have a different user by the same name.
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I illustrated the business model which demands immediate labour & lobbies the government. which promotes immigration against the peoples wishes.
you mentioned repatriation & said theres not enough money at present to induce us many to go.But the bnp will address funding.. now Do you know how much it would cost?
It would cost billions OR possibly trillions to even consider. We have properties,businesses, assets,investments,employees,children & more.
If i paid 40% tax i would demand 1.5 Million alone tax free. And who is gonna plug the gap & replace us specialists when we go..
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Immigrants So i get my 1.5 mill ...Guess what happens now? I get an easier pass in any country because of my wealth.
Its roughly 75k for Australia if you can support a business..
Thats one of the many reasons why race politics fail. It would require a political ,economic shift of biblical proportions. . . . . . Once again.
you need to articulate yourselves better cant blame the jew or call me anti white ,liberal for your collective incompetance.. Note the title of the thread.
Now get quote mining.
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quote:Originally posted by element: stop the lies & denial..
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:Originally posted by element: when i wake up & go about about my daily duties i never have to think about my origin or hue. The minute i log on i encounter people like you who are obsessed with my origins & activities . Theirs a website called chimpout where people just tweet & twitter about blacks all day.
Don't lie. You are obsessed with race, hence why you admitted you waste your time on youtube debating white nationalists.
You are a multiracialist who spends his time obsessed with white people who want to preserve their race. Does it upset you not everyone wants to mix? Otherwise i don't see your obsession with debating/harassing white nationalists.
quote:Ive also examined your prolific internet christian creationist revisionist racist trail.
Many of those posts are not mine.
quote: your didactic comments & falsified posts will never ever get by me.Ive dissected & dismantled you in many threads since ive arrived without slander or insults.
You've done nothing but made an idiot of yourself in this thread. I also don't understand the purpose of this thread in the first place. Is there even a point to this debate?
All i merely said is that you are an immigrant after you admitted you are one and that your grandparents only arrived recently in UK from a foreign country.
You are not British. Deal with it.
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quote:Originally posted by element: where i attacked white people
You have repeatedly denied or questioned the existence of indigenous Britons (because we are White), which has exposed your leukophobia -
quote:your using indigenous as an emotional psychological crutch & you cant see it.
I use the word indigenous, since i understand the history of these isles and my ancestors have been here thousands of years.
In direct contrast you admitted to be an immigrant -
quote:My grandparents were Jamaican immigrants
You are not British.
I'm not sure why this is complicated for you to accept. You've admitted you are an immigrant and so you don't descend from the indigenous genepool.
You are the kind of person who has no problem accepting australian aborigines or maori are indigenous because they are darker skinned, but because the native Britons are white you are obsessed with denying our status.
quote:where i support race mixing
You did that as soon as your immigrant grandparents entered Britain.
quote:where i support immigration
See 1 above. You are an immigrant yourself.
quote:That was your manifesto..& the Manifesto disintegrated when scrutinised exactly as i predicted In the opening post.
YOu have scrutinised nothing.
quote:I told you about the miscreants. Arthur kemp sharon ebanks.
You posted lies about Athur Kemp, and secondly posted irrelevant stuff about rumours (never confirmed) of Sharon Ebanks ancestry. Despite the fact she was expelled from the BNP years back.
quote:I illustrated the business model which demands immediate labour & lobbies the government. which promotes immigration against the peoples wishes.
Your argument is the dumbest ever.
quote:you mentioned repatriation & said theres not enough money at present to induce us many to go.But the bnp will address funding.. now Do you know how much it would cost?
It would cost billions OR possibly trillions to even consider. We have properties,businesses, assets,investments,employees,children & more.
If i paid 40% tax i would demand 1.5 Million alone tax free. And who is gonna plug the gap & replace us specialists when we go..
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Immigrants So i get my 1.5 mill ...Guess what happens now? I get an easier pass in any country because of my wealth.
The money would be achieved by various means. Firstly by leaving the European Union we secure billions. Secondly if we pull our troops out of the illegal wars in the middle-east we would save hundreds of millions. I can easily make a huge list of many more ways to save money. The goverment spends millions on bogus translation services for immigrants each year. Those scrapped would save more millions.
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^^ This thread has clearly illustrated beyond any doubt why you cannot be trusted.
Lioness posted a full piece on Arthur kemp.
sharon ebanks. Do your own research.
you've mocked , demeaned & tried to classify blacks & their features all year.. Now your all sensitive when i examine your theory. yet you defend an unapologetic racist?
I know you have an emotional investment in defining me. but this is just childish..
Im an immigrant so by default i will race mix Im an immigrant so by default i support immigrants ..
. you should be familiar with political party funding & lobbying ..
. Originally posted by element:
[QB] I want to de-racialise this response.
Theirs an economic model at play. It starts with a business or a demand for labour. The government is just the immigration gatekeeper. Their is no experiment.It's strictly business or an opportunity for a jobseeker.
Here's a common scenario.
An expanding company requires say 80 new employees. The employee is only required to be qualified to fulfil the positions. The business accomplishes it's goals & it's relatively immediate so their done.
But behind the scenes outside of employment...
These 80 employees & their potential families have to co-exist within the wider community & share resources , services,instituitions etc Their is no infrastructure in place to anticipate or gauge the immediate demand and theirs also a presumption that everyone will assimilate / integrate.
But assimilation into the wider society is not guaranteed & can take decades. you mentioned that the public had no say in events. well the public do not influence businesses. There's also a difference between integration & assimilation.
Its easier & faster for people to assimilate with others who share similar ideals & traits. This is called primary & secondary grouping.And thats why theirs segregated areas, mini communities, chinatowns, curry miles,expatriate groups etc etc
Integration is more complex & it can be restrictive or politically enforced. as you have no choice but to mix or else in the workplace or educational establishments. And Many of the indigenous people may also decide to move out of these communities
you can attach race or ethnicity to the immigrants in the business model but the components still remain. . . .
cassiterides in depth rebuttal is highlighted in yellow .. . .
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[b]cassiterides response is highlighted in yellow ..
. . . So the all inclusive bnp is proposing isolationism ...Wake up man.. How can you be so clueless? How about providing data on immigrant levels & financial costs to repatriate.
.Your misguided to even insinuate that a party can suddenly discard their beliefs and tainted background. Then suddenly behave as professionals. you presume that the British public would vote an ignorant one dimensional divisive, untrustworthy political party in power to manage the countries finances.. They cannot even manage themselves as no-one would fund them. Their almost bankrupt . Thats why they were forced to let non whites join As if a non white could be so dumb.
. . . originally posted by element
your comments only have psychological weight or value because ( i presume ) your part of or identify with the ruling hegemony. But the manifesto disintegrates when scrutinised.
you need to articulate yourselves better cant blame the jew or call me anti white ,liberal for your collective incompetance.. Note the title of the self fulfilling prophetic thread. . . .
80% probabilty of your not british your an immigrant Jamaican straw man comments in cassiterides response.
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quote: The source is Cavalli-Sforza's book on the Pygmies entitled 'African pygmies' (Academic Press, 1986).
This work shows that Negroids mutated from an ancestral pygmy population around 9,000 BC in West Africa. So the 'true' Black African today is a recent mutation. Caucasoids and Mongoloids predate them. [Wink] Negroids only migrated into other parts of Africa during the Bantu expansion or slightly earlier. Prior to them, Caucasoids inhabited North Africa and Bushmen (Capoids) to the south who were displaced by the Caucasoids from the Mediterranean around 12,000 BC.
^^A bogus reference. Why should anyone take your word for it given past bogus references? Quote where Cavalli-Sforza says these so-called "negroids" "mutated" from Pygmies. The burden of proof is on you, since you made the claim.
While you scurry to cover your tracks with yet more bogus claims, Cavali Sforza, in his well known The History and Geography of Human Genes, 1994 Cavalli-Sforza summarizes his 1986 work on Pygmies and specifically debunks the "Pygmy as ancestor" theory held by other older writings. QUOTE:
"It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place of origin for the Negroid type which includes all West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are not good candidates for a proto-African population."
--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194
SO much for your lying claims of "mutations" from "Pygymy" ancestors. In short, you lied about Cavalli-Sforza, creating a falsified claim and a bogus "supporting" reference to a claim that is nowhere supported in his work. You are once again exposed as yet another racist, who relies on bogus "evidence" to advance, dubious and debunked claims. You are not fooling anyone.
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YOu then tried to cover up your lie with even more bogus nformation and STILL fail
You "modified" your Cavalli Sforza claim by including page numbers, and then changing some wording to "adaptive radiation" hoping to divert attention from your exposure.. lmao..
However pages 361-362 of Cavalli Sforza's 1986 book says absolutely nothing about any Negroes "mutating" from pygmies, nor any "adaptive radiation." It merely discusses Pygmy history and geography. You picked out a page at random, not knowing it can be verified via Google Books. You were asked to provide a direct quote but are still running. Now why is that?
""It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place of origin for the Negroid type which includes all West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are not good candidates for a proto-African population."
--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194
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And Your pathetic "modification" STILL turned out to be bogus. You then said:
[b]"True" Black Africans appear as a recent adaptive radiation apparently branching off from an ancestral Pygmy population — a line of ancestry also indicated by osteological data (Coon 1962:651-656; Watson et al. 1996).
^^But in fact, Watson 1996 has nothing to do with osteological data and does not even mention it. It has to do with mtDNA.
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quote:Originally posted by element: I created this thread to answer some points what were raised on the Afrocentrism gone too far blacks try to steal st george thread.
some additional points require further analysis.
No offense element, but this entire thread is nonsense. I'm not even black or of African descent, but even I know there is a big difference between real Afrocentrism and deranged blacks trying to claim or usurp cultures and figures outside of Africa that have nothing to do with Africans.
Also this nutty reactionary movement among those few and far between deranged blacks I spoke of is nothing more than the inverse of what has gone on in Western academia for centuries. Are you even aware that during the 19th century there was a "caucasoid" craze where Western (white) anthropologists tried to claim the presence of "caucasoids" everywhere from Africa to the Pacific as responsible for the various advanced cultures in those regions?? Funny now you and others are so quick to call out the nutty blacks in their attempt to black paint the world but not the actual scholars and academics of the past who were responsible for white-washing the world.
All in all, this thread is useless because you are always going to have extremist nuts in any group or party. The difference is the Euronuts have actually had the power to publish their white-wash crap in mainstream academia while the Afronuts have not (well if you don't include Winters ).
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quote:Originally posted by element: [QB] ^^ Lioness posted a full piece on Arthur kemp.
They posted an article written by a far-left organisation that is filled with lies. Kemp has already corrected this article, heck it couldn't even get his birth date right.
quote:sharon ebanks. Do your own research.
Someone who was expelled from the BNP ages back and had some rumours circulate about their ancestry. I really don't see the relevance.
quote:you've mocked , demeaned & tried to classify blacks & their features all year.. Now your all sensitive when i examine your theory. yet you defend an unapologetic racist?
You might want to look up the definition of the r word. Arthur Kemp is not a racist, he is a race realist. Basics here -
Because he accepts there is an indigenous population to Britain and is concerned as a Sikh with the alarming Islamifcation of this country, which only the BNP opposes. The BNP has always polled well in Sikh and Jewish areas, since Sikhs and Jews are concerned with the spread of militant Islam.
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quote:cassiterides in depth rebuttal is highlighted in yellow
Your business model as i said is the dumbest theory ever.
Are you aware there are 2 million unemployed white British youths in Britain?
They can't get jobs because immigrants like you come to this country and steal them.
So your crackpot claim immigration helps the economy is nuts, it doesn't. All it does it steal jobs from the indigenous British and has put our unemployment numbers up.
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I know my history & im well aware of euro & afro culture bandits...Ive not been here long & i'm fair & consistent.
I should have ended this days ago but he wont let me follow on. I agree thats it's becoming farcical now. But i think its very necessary for the lurkers.Especially europeans.
I can't comment any further because cassiterides likes to misquote & derail my thread. Thats why ive chosen to debate here in isolation.
No offense taken.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:Originally posted by element: I created this thread to answer some points what were raised on the Afrocentrism gone too far blacks try to steal st george thread.
some additional points require further analysis.
No offense element, but this entire thread is nonsense. I'm not even black or of African descent, but even I know there is a big difference between real Afrocentrism and deranged blacks trying to claim or usurp cultures and figures outside of Africa that have nothing to do with Africans.
Also this nutty reactionary movement among those few and far between deranged blacks I spoke of is nothing more than the inverse of what has gone on in Western academia for centuries. Are you even aware that during the 19th century there was a "caucasoid" craze where Western (white) anthropologists tried to claim the presence of "caucasoids" everywhere from Africa to the Pacific as responsible for the various advanced cultures in those regions?? Funny now you and others are so quick to call out the nutty blacks in their attempt to black paint the world but not the actual scholars and academics of the past who were responsible for white-washing the world.
All in all, this thread is useless because you are always going to have extremist nuts in any group or party. The difference is the Euronuts have actually had the power to publish their white-wash crap in mainstream academia while the Afronuts have not (well if you don't include Winters ).
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why do my comments always have spaces . . . Greetings casiterides..How are you? . .Ok
1 I have a specialist occupation in technology so i can work anywhere across the globe .just like anyone who chooses to excel.
2 Your unemployment figures are too low Government figures are politically falsified. so you have to cross combine data..
go to ..
The Office for National Statistics International Labour Organisation
Now here's the puzzling part
your well aware that some professions require graduates,time served Or skilled people.
so why did you bring up white british youths & no additional data? ...... some would be at part time college & claiming benefits. some would be unemployable & some would be unfit to work for health reasons.
But you emphasized young & white..
No age range, no data No other ethnicities just 2 million young & white.
very naughty.. . . . . . . . .
Business model 101.. read s l o w l y
Any citizen of a country which has European membership. Has freedom to roam or work in europe under relaxed rules. This occured in 1992 when the conservatives signed the Maastricht Treaty.which means that we are competing with europeans for employment.. so you have to raise your standards.But educations standards have declined haven't they?
You know we have employement agencies. temporary or permanent. Their are vacancies. These temporary or permanent posts need to be filled tomorrow, next week, next month this is relativly immediate.
You understand immediacy ?
If you settle in a community & are supposed to integrate its not immediate is it in comparison ?
This business model is global..so stop racialising politics.
I have never claimed immigration helps the economy ..But you can claim i help the economy if you like cause your a real brit & a person of good character
1970 was the last time their was almost full employment in the uk..And every school leaver knows that western economies require surplus labour.which means that it's government policy to have a percentage of unemployed people..It's a centuries old political tool to reduce strikes & rates of pay..
Try researching the 1980's when unemployment was over 3 million. . . . .
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:cassiterides in depth rebuttal is highlighted in yellow
Your business model as i said is the dumbest theory ever.
Are you aware there are 2 million unemployed white British youths in Britain?
They can't get jobs because immigrants like you come to this country and steal them.
So your crackpot claim immigration helps the economy is nuts, it doesn't. All it does it steal jobs from the indigenous British and has put our unemployment numbers up.
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Ive thoroughly researched Arthur kemp & sharon e banks so your toxic opinions are meaningless..
Summary..
You have stated that you reviewed Arthur kemps march of the titans book in this thread. And you have stated elsewhere that youve posted pieces in wikipedia. Then you give me a wikpedia link.
Next.
Remember Rajinder Singh.
Nobody is convinced that a 78 year old ex mathematics teacher. who's lived through 2nd world war & nazism .Race riots in the 60s & 70S.Anti discrimination & race acts etc etc etc Believes that a party with a history of racism ,intimidation is the place to be...
If you bothered to research further you'd realise He's not a sikh & he admits that the bnp are racist.
Bnp leader Nick griffin states that ethnic minorities have beeen begging to join the party. & paraded a non sikh who wore a turban just for the media.
Maybe he's a shill or after your reparation money. Do you understand?
Next.
Demographics...
The bnp are a political party who will target areas where they can easily gain seats.Just like any other party.. But you wrote this.
[/QUOTE] The BNP has always polled well in Sikh and Jewish areas, since Sikhs and Jews are concerned with the spread of militant Islam. [/QB][/QUOTE]
This suggests that it is Sikhs & Jews who are voting bnp . If this was true then you should easily have election poll surveys from jews & sikhs as evidence to back this up.
pure propaganda..
Remember this.. Originally posted by element 11TH NOVEMBER [QB]
quote:
The point im trying to make was that even if you have a legitimate & peaceful cause. Its relativly easy to infiltrate your institution & undermine it from within if you have no clear & cohesive agenda.
summary ...
The bnp party cannot continue without funds BUT NO ONE WOULD BACK THEM ..so they sold you out. And tried to rebrand themselves..
They then paraded a fake sikh to try & recruit new non white members because they were almost bankrupt..
The newspapers knew he was fake & put sikh in the headline.
wake up & welcome to the 21st century while theirs still hope for you
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by element: [QB] ^^ Lioness posted a full piece on Arthur kemp.
They posted an article written by a far-left organisation that is filled with lies. Kemp has already corrected this article, heck it couldn't even get his birth date right.
quote:sharon ebanks. Do your own research.
Someone who was expelled from the BNP ages back and had some rumours circulate about their ancestry. I really don't see the relevance.
quote:you've mocked , demeaned & tried to classify blacks & their features all year.. Now your all sensitive when i examine your theory. yet you defend an unapologetic racist?
You might want to look up the definition of the r word. Arthur Kemp is not a racist, he is a race realist. Basics here -
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Americans and Europeans will bring in cheap undocumented workers that work for less money and the employer doesn't have to have pay benefits. But if one of these workers acquires more skill all of the sudden the white people afraid of competition want them out of the country
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