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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oshun: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:[qb] [QUOTE] [b]Again we don't (or at least, I don't) really know whether or not to classify Greeks as black or not because I don't know the degree of admixture present within their ancestry. Like I said before, traditional models for race equate blackness with at least 1/4th to 1/8th African ancestry. Are you saying that Greeks are less than about 1/4th black for example?[/b] [/QUOTE]Should it matter the % of ancestry "they" at-least the classical Greeks considered themselves non Aethiops(blacks) for the most part,never mind that they carried African ancestry and recognized that fact as DJ pointed out. [/qb][/QUOTE]It does not matter if they did not see themselves as literally being black. Race in our modern definitions didn't even exist for them to make commentary on. Also, most blacks are not literally black and come in all types of complexions, [b]including[/b] the types of complexions we see today in modern Greeks. The idea a member of the black social group must in fact BE pitch black again relies on "true negro" stereotypes. A person's race is not be for them to simply choose either. Race was never something that one chose, it was decided by percentages. While yes, in the modern world, they're trying to change it so that you can decide it, that's not a choice anyone can make.The ones who can "choose" are those who don't look stereotypically black as it serves the "true negro" agenda to allow them, North Africans, and now East Africans the "privileges" in doing so. This sort of nonsense of "self identification" is not something blacks of darker complexions are entitled to because it's not in the interests of Eurocentrics to let darker blacks do it. Classifying lighter blacks as multi racial allows for marginalization of the black population by placing many into obscure groups as to limit funding or research for the black community as a whole. It also allows whites (with a declining birth rate) to further their numbers. In 2008, 22% of black men married a white woman. I wonder how they will "self identify" and if that will as a result be of much benefit to the black community. Thirdly, "multiracial" terminology furthers racism by suggesting a phenotype is what makes race or being majority white makes one white (when it previously did not). But perhaps one of the worst things about it, is that it also allows them to divide the black community when (like the Hispanic population is now), it was more cohesive and more able to organize. So Now that they (white racists) are allowing people of lighter skins to "self identify", they're playing the "true negro" game because blacks are allowing them to change the game of the one drop rule when white supremacists are about to get their asses owned (like Cassi here). Black Rights activists knew this would happen and tried very hard to prevent bi-racial or multi-racial classifications. Most blacks in America are mixed race to some degree. But Being of mixed ancestry did not and does not equate being of mixed race and now Eurocentrics are trying to change it so that they can further their agendas for racism. I refuse to subscribe to a "true negro" basis for race. I play the game by the rules set up from the start. It's not my job to pacify butthurt crybabies if they find out their precious 'white' civilizations may be black by their rules. They do not get to change the rules if Greece turns out to be quadroon and they need to get over it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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