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Western imperialism throughout the world always roars in as the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse. That's what NATO did to Libya and Africa. War, pestilence, famine, and death. According to some soft poll some The author compromises his bona fides here and there but he does point to the racism of the settler Arabs that fueled the overthrow.

Reading between the line some 70% of Libyans admit to be worse off now than under Gaddafi. The 32% that says that they are better off are the die-hard settler racists that called in NATO to destroy Libya.

It was the destruction of Libya that directly led to the Islamist take-over of Northern Mali and the kidnappings in Algeria. Boko Haram and Seleka Islamists(CAR) all benefited from the newly available weaponry and disorder in Libya to mount their ferocious attacks.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37928.htm

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After applauding the NATO attacks and destruction of Libya--Human Rights Watch is now forced to admit this:

http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/11/19/libya-displaced-camp-residents-need-immediate-protection

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Its Lamin, my honey baby...

Some MUURISH classes for you girl:

Libya rehabilitates the Sanussi Royals

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/africa/2014/03/05/Libya-rehabilitates-royals-overthrown-by-Qaddafi.html

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And yet the 'Western Coalition" claimed they were
intervening to "stop the violence..."

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Gadhafi's violence was wreaked on the people for 40 years.

The bastard had 40 years to undermine peace in Africa!

The amputees of Sierra Leone, and Liberia curse him till this date.

The wars in Mali and Mauritania are directly traceable to Gadhafi's empire delusions...

The man that kills to prosper, must face death at the door of prosperity..

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Colonel Gadhafi's school for scoundrels

http://metro.co.uk/2011/03/15/revealed-colonel-gaddafis-world-revolutionary-center-644456/


Colonel Muammar Gaddafi is infamous for abuses he has inflicted on his own people but less well known is a campaign of carnage he inspired across Africa and Latin America.


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(Sands of time: Rebels hostile to the regime of Col Gaddafi emerge from the desert where once he trained future tyrants)


At the height of his power, Col Muammar Gaddafi was singled out by MI5 as the greatest state-sponsored terror threat of the 1980s.

It was a time when the Libyan leader is said to have become bound to repressive regimes and armed movements worldwide.

Flush with oil money, Gaddafi orchestrated a training campaign for students who became brutal warlords in Africa, a legacy which leaves the region unstable today, according to Douglas Farah, senior fellow at the International Assessment And Strategy Center in Virginia, US.

The national security consultant and analyst says: ‘Gaddafi’s World Revolutionary Center (WRC) near Benghazi, Libya, became, as scholar Stephen Ellis noted in his 2001 book, The Mask Of Anarchy, the “Harvard and Yale of a whole generation of African revolutionaries”, many of them the continent’s most notorious tyrants.’

The desert training camps taught weapons and intelligence techniques, with doses of ideology from Gaddafi’s Green Book.

‘Courses lasted from a few weeks to more than a year, depending on the level of specialisation and rank one had,’ says Farah.

‘In addition to the African contingents, Gaddafi’s cells trained the Sandinistas from Nicaragua, along with other Latin American revolutionary movements and, in the process, built an enduring relationship with Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua and Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez.

Gaddafi, Ortega and Chávez also developed close ties with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc), a terrorist group reportedly producing more than half of the world’s cocaine.’

At the WRC in the 1980s and 1990s, a select group of students formed a fraternity who provided mutual support in their ruthless campaigns for power.

‘That network still wields considerable influence today through its alumni still in power, including Blaise Compaoré of Burkina Faso and Idriss Déby of Chad,’ says Farah.

‘His closest ally in Africa was Robert Mugabe , who although not a WRC product, has been propped up by Libyan donations and subsidised oil shipments.’

Muammar Gaddafi and Robert Mugabe
Libyan leader Gaddafi embraces Zimbabwe leader Robert Mugabe
Relations have been more strained recently as Zimbabwe could not repay its Libyan debts.

However, Farah says: ‘Gaddafi has done well out of his investments, acquiring at least 20 luxurious properties and a stake in some of the few still-viable state enterprises after riding to Mugabe’s rescue.

Gaddafi also intervened militarily in the Central African Republic in 2001.

The president he protected, Ange-Félix Patassé, signed a deal giving Libya a 99-year lease to exploit all of the country’s natural resources, including uranium, copper, diamonds and oil.’

Farah, a former West Africa bureau chief for The Washington Post, adds: ‘Liberia, a US stronghold in the Cold War, was also targeted after a US bombing attack in 1986 against Libya killed one of Gaddafi’s adopted daughters.

‘Gaddafi recruited Liberia’s Charles Taylor, who is now standing trial for crimes against humanity, including the abduction of children for combat, systematic rape and mass murder.

‘Another recruit, Foday Sankoh of Sierra Leone’s Revolutionary United Front (RUF), would be standing trial in the same court for similar crimes had he not died of natural causes.’

Sankoh formed the RUF under Taylor’s auspices and together they pioneered their signature atrocity in the 1990s.

‘The amputation of the arms and legs of men, women, and children as part of a scorched-earth campaign was designed to take over the region’s rich diamond fields and was backed by Gaddafi, who routinely reviewed their progress and supplied weapons,’ says Farah.

Compaoré, the current president of Burkina Faso, is another WRC graduate.

In 1987, troops loyal to him assassinated his best friend, president Thomas Sankara, to pave the way for him to take power.

Compaoré sent troops and resources to back both Taylor’s insurgency in Liberia and the RUF in Sierra Leone.

A 2002 United Nations investigation found Compaoré played a significant role in arming them in violation of a UN arms embargo.

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Excerpted with permission from global politics and economics magazine Foreign Policy. www.foreignpolicy.com

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LOL. Here we have this leave-smoking demented jackass who has never been to Africa offering up some ridiculous nonsense about Libya. As i keep telling this gutted--brain moron who is as confused a dog drunk on beer. I mean it is just so ridiculous to have a this weak-brained fool prattling on stupidly about--"muurs". I say stay off the leaves. You just get dumber and dumber every day.
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
LOL. Here we have this leave-smoking demented jackass who has never been to Africa offering up some ridiculous nonsense about Libya. As i keep telling this gutted--brain moron who is as confused a dog drunk on beer. I mean it is just so ridiculous to have a this weak-brained fool prattling on stupidly about--"muurs". I say stay off the leaves. You just get dumber and dumber every day.

Honey

Are you having one of those bi-polar incidents again? Oh gee...

Here relax and have a toke... [Cool]

It helps! [Big Grin] [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
... prattling on stupidly about--"muurs". ...

Honey

The Muurish Story is now Online: MUUR!

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Muammar Gaddafi was the mastermind and key financier of the brutal war that left hundreds of thousands dead in Sierra Leone in West Africa in the 1990s. The war would not have happened in the first place had it not been for the desire of the Libyan leader to punish the government of Sierra Leone for what he regarded as its siding with the West in the 1980’s when Gaddafi was at loggerhead with particularly the United States and Britain. It was also part of Gaddafi’s broader agenda including his geopolitical ambition to destabilize much of West Africa and establish satellite states in the region to be headed by puppet regimes that will be doing his biddings. The decade-long war ripped Sierra Leone apart. Thousands of its victims, whose arms and limbs were chopped off by rebels, were reduced to paupers, roaming the streets as beggars in Freetown and other cities. Children as young as a day old were also among those whose arms and limbs were hacked off by Gaddafi’s rebels. Pregnant women, too, were disemboweled with delight in their display of ghastly brutality. http://www.shout-africa.com/top-story/libya-indict-muammar-gaddafi-now-for-war-crimes-in-sierra-leone/

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Yes, the MUURS are telling their stories!

All for diamonds and power. This is the work of Gaddhafi, and his armed and sent thugs Charles Taylor of Liberia, and the late Foday Sankoh of Sierra Leone:

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Who killed Tomas Sankara?

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MOMO: My boss told me to approach Sankara for help in taking power in Liberia. In return, he offered lucrative business opportunities. Thomas Sankara told him he was not interested and asked him to leave the country. He told him that he would not help and asked him to find another staging point for his rebellion. Guengere, who is currently Burkina Faso’s minister of defence, Blaise Compaoré, Charles Taylor, and Chad’s current president … you know who he is?

SILVESTRO: Yes.

MOMO: Yes, him too.

SILVESTRO: Yes.

MOMO: They all met in Mauritania for a whole day … after a while they were joined by a white man from Paris. The discussions carried on, and then there was another meeting in Libya, where the Sankara problem was discussed some more. What emerged was that if we were to use Burkina Faso as a launching pad, Sankara had to be eliminated. Blaise Compaoré, would become president, and he would help us…

SILVESTRO: And was Gaddafi okay with the plan?

MOMO: Yes, yes … please remember, this must all remain confidential.

SILVESTRO: Yes, yes…

MOMO: If Gaddafi helped Taylor, and France sent word that they were in support of the coup d’état … better yet, if France provided funds and indicated that they would recognise Compaoré’s government, then all was well. Blaise told Guengere, the current Burkinabe army chief to avail a group of commandos, Taylor provided other troops, and the coup was staged.

http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/features/58463

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Which smooth operator sold Africans to Romans and they never even had a clue:

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He was also a rabid Arabist and a proselytizing Muslim imam. Al Qaeda, his former brethrens that he brought to Africa in 1976 - 1982 finally brought his fake ass down!

Read this honey:

Gadaffi's Girls: When in Rome...colonel orders in 500 beauties but there's no booze and definitely no hanky-panky

When an elderly gent places an order for 500 leggy lovelies to attend a party in Rome, scenes of a saucy nature would seem to be guaranteed.
Not, however, when the customer happens to be Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.
Rather than invite the dark-eyed beauties to see his etchings Silvio Berlusconi-style, the 67-year-old Libyan dictator suggested they convert to Islam.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228196/Colonel-Gaddafi-demands-500-beautiful-Italian-girls-convert-Islam-Rome-summit.html#ixzz2vxewevhA
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Lamin what a naughty gyal you have been. Telling lies like they are the truth.

Who converted North Africa into an Islamic Arabic Republic???

Libyan Arab Republic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Islamic_Republic

"The Arab Islamic Republic was a proposed unification of Tunisia and Libya in 1974, agreed upon by then Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi and Tunisian President Habib Bourguiba."

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Lamin, you are just another anti-MUURISH Kunt!

We will not be SLAVES to nobody, not even your ARABIC fuk-master Gaddafi:

MUURZ!

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"The idea that Arab idealists would be prepared to die for another country's leader was not entirely unfounded. Thanks to its enormous oil reserves Libya was by far the richest country in North Africa. The problem was that there wasn't enough personnel to man all of the wonderful equipment purchased with the oil billions. Thus, in the mid-70s the Libyan Army had only 300 crew for the 2,500 tanks rusting in their depots. Libya was generally short on people and, as in many oil states, the economy was kept going by tens of thousands of foreign workers. Military service was especially unpopular, and so it was obvious to fall back on foreigners for this also.

There was, unfortunately, one big catch: there were few real volunteers. Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were still in the distant future, and very few Arabs were willing to risk their lives for Gaddafi's grandiose plans. But there was yet another resource. Due to several severe droughts, many semi-nomads from the Sahel, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan had come to Libya and were leading a miserable existence in refugee camps. Furthermore there were political exiles from these and other countries who had fought in vain for more autonomy in their homelands. West Africans were also continually flooding in, risking the long journey across the Sahara to find work in Libya.

The majority of the Islamic Legion was recruited from among these poor souls. "

Islamic Legions of Gadhafi - the first al qaedas

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Jackass why are you wasting your time posting nonsense about which you know very little. You have been dismissed as a frivolous and confused punk a long time ago. You are the living embodiment of what leaves can do to the human brain.
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Honey, don't be mad at me. These truths are all well known and documented.

Come with facts otherwise you are just a bossy little gyal spouting insults instead of debating...

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MUURZ:

All he ever gave to Africa was one form of Islamic fundamentalism or the other. Meanwhile, he was a fornicator, a wine connoisseur, and a pork eater!

Report about Muammar Gaddafi’s World Islamic Call Society

Original address: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-libya-missionary-idUSBRE82S07T20120329

Author: Tom Heneghan
Source: Reuters, March 29, 2012

Original title: Special Report: Gaddafi's secret missionaries

On a tidy campus in his capital of Tripoli, dictator Muammar Gaddafi sponsored one of the world's leading Muslim missionary networks. It was the smiling face of his Libyan regime, and the world smiled back.

The World Islamic Call Society (WICS) sent staffers out to build mosques and provide humanitarian relief. It gave poor students a free university education, in religion, finance and computer science. Its missionaries traversed Africa preaching a moderate, Sufi-tinged version of Islam as an alternative to the strict Wahhabism that Saudi Arabia was spreading.

Illuminatis!

The Society won approval in high places. The Vatican counted it among its partners in Christian-Muslim dialogue and both Pope John Paul and Pope Benedict received its secretary general. Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, spiritual head of the world's Anglicans, visited the campus in 2009 to deliver a lecture. The following year, the U.S. State Department noted approvingly how the Society had helped Filipino Christian migrant workers start a church in Libya.

But the Society had a darker side that occasionally flashed into view. In Africa, rumors abounded for years of Society staffers paying off local politicians or supporting insurgent groups. In 2004, an American Muslim leader was convicted of a plot to assassinate the Saudi crown prince, financed in part by the Society. In 2011, Canada stripped the local Society office of its charity status after it found the director had diverted Society money to a radical group that had attempted a coup in Trinidad and Tobago in 1990 and was linked to a plot to bomb New York's Kennedy Airport in 2007.

http://pointdebasculecanada.ca/archives/10002764-report-about-muammar-gaddafi%E2%80%99s-world-islamic-call-society.html

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Gaddafi and Jangaweed in Sudan - The Angel of Death

The Janjaweed in Darfur : echoes of Gaddafi's Islamic Legion
By Alasdair McKay, Researcher, UK Defence Forum

The current civil war in Libya has inspired discussions about the legacy of Muammar Gaddafi's forty two year rule. The issues of his domestic policy and foreign policy towards the West have been subject to considerable debate, but lesser known aspects of his activities have been somewhat overlooked, particularly the brutality which emerged from Gaddafi's drive for regional supremacy. His ambitions became manifested in a paramilitary organization known as the Islamic Legion, which serves as the focus of this contribution. The Islamic Legion carries importance because the ruptures of this organization are still being felt today with disastrous consequences for political stability and human rights in Sub-Saharan Africa. This has been most discernable in the recent Darfur crisis, which has seen the horrendous effects of militia forces colorized with intense Arab supremacism and racism towards "non-Arabs".

The Islamic Legion was formed in 1973 – some three years after Gaddafi came to power in Libya. Inspired by the French Foreign Legion, Gaddafi created the Islamic Legion as a tool to Arabize the region, and to form the Great Islamic State of the Sahel. The priorities were first Chad, and then Sudan.

Despite the Arab and Islamic-focused ambitions of the group, the Legion was comprised of individuals from various ethnic origins. Both Arabs and Africans came to Libya hoping to find a civilian job, but were instead forcefully recruited to go and fight in foreign lands.

Gaddafi dispatched legionnaires to Lebanon, Syria, Uganda and Palestine. But the Legion was to be mostly associated with the Libyan-Chadian War, where, in 1980, 7,000 legionnaires took part in the second battle of N'Djamena. Provided with inadequate military training, the legionnaires' fighting record was most noted for its ineptitude, and Gaddafi's force was essentially humiliated. The Legion was disbanded by Gaddafi in 1987 as a result of its defeats in Chad and the Libyan retreat from that country.

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the Legion's dissolution did not necessarily end endeavors to achieve regional Arab supremacy. The failures of the Legion led to the establishment of an organization called Tajamu al Arabi, translated as ''Arab Gathering'', which Gaddafi supported, and many of the former members of the Islamic Legion became part of this new elite assembly. The Arab Gathering has been likened to the Ku Klux Klan due to its racist ethos. The Gathering's ideology follows a doctrine known as the Qoreish, which essentially combines Arab supremacism with loose fragments of Islamism. The doctrine evokes a potent and compelling mythology concerning Arabs in the region as it traces the origin of the Juhanya Arabs back to the Prophet Muhammad. Mythologies such as this one provide a powerful way for the Arab Gathering to justify its belief that it is superior to other groups, even other Arab tribes. The ambitions of the Qoreish doctrine are concerned with power gains in Chad and Darfur through control of regional institutions and forging Machiavellian alliances.

Initially a clandestine group, the Arab Gathering finally emerged publicly in October 1987 when it sent an open letter to the then Sudanese prime minister calling for the ''Arab race'' to be given greater regional authority at the expense of the Fur and Zaghawa tribes, who were identified as "non-Arabs". The Gathering called these groups "zurga" and "abid", terms implying that they were slaves.

Indications of this drive for Arab supremacy were seen in the Gathering's clashes with the Zaghawa tribes in the 1980s when attacking Arab militias burned villages and wrote Arab nationalist slogans in the ashes. Cross-border raids continued in the years that followed and greatly contributed to a separate ethnic conflict within Darfur that killed approximately 9,000 people and saw a further 100,000 flee to Chad in 1988. The intensity of the violence practiced by these Arab militias earned them the nickname ''Janjaweed", which means "devil on a horse", from the local Masalit tribes. Many of these Janjaweed members had been trained and supported by Libya in the 1980s. As a consequence of the violence, an official Sudanese government militia, the Popular Defence Forces (PDF), was tasked with keeping order in the province.

In 2003, a new conflict in Darfur began when two rebel groups, the Sudan Liberation Army and the Justice and Equality Movement, began attacking Sudanese government and military installations in the province. In response to these attacks, the government of Sudan began its indiscriminate programme of arming and expanding the PDF and the Janjaweed. Most significantly though, militia recruitment now exercised discrimination based on ethnic affiliation. Only Arabs could join the militia forces and "non-Arabs" were prohibited entry. These militia forces were unleashed with brutal effect in Darfur.

Tensions between groups in Darfur had been evident for some time, but the scale of the post-2003 conflict has been greater than before partly because of the militarization of the Arab supremacist position in the region. Arab supremacy and militancy find a potent embodiment in Musa Hilal, who is recognised as both the most prominent Janjaweed leader and the head of the Arab Gathering. Operating with the backing of the Sudanese government in Khartoum, Hilal is clear in his aim to remove the "non-Arabs" from the region with his force of 20,000 fighters.

The war in Darfur has thus far killed between 178,258 and 461,520. The Janjaweed are identified as being responsible for the majority of these killings. After several investigations by NGOs and IGOs were conducted in the region, reports began to circulate evidence of war atrocities. Attacks by militia forces had been deliberately and indiscriminately directed against civilians with the impact of the attacks being resoundingly disproportionate to the threat posed by the Darfur rebels. Villages had been subjected to looting, organised burning; civilians had been raped, massacred and executed. In the areas subject to attack the population was displaced and the landscape became deserted.

The consequences of the present Darfur conflict have forced a significant response from the international community. Indeed, from Britain alone, 26,000 peacekeepers have been sent in to try and stop the violence. ....

http://www.defenceviewpoints.co.uk/articles-and-analysis/civil-militias-in-northern-africa-echoes-of-gaddafis-islamic-legion

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Indications of this drive for Arab supremacy were seen in the Gathering's clashes with the Zaghawa tribes in the 1980s when attacking Arab militias burned villages and wrote Arab nationalist slogans in the ashes. Cross-border raids continued in the years that followed and greatly contributed to a separate ethnic conflict within Darfur that killed approximately 9,000 people and saw a further 100,000 flee to Chad in 1988. The intensity of the violence practiced by these Arab militias earned them the nickname ''Janjaweed", which means "devil on a horse", from the local Masalit tribes. Many of these Janjaweed members had been trained and supported by Libya in the 1980s. As a consequence of the violence, an official Sudanese government militia, the Popular Defence Forces (PDF), was tasked with keeping order in the province.. ....

http://www.defenceviewpoints.co.uk/articles-and-analysis/civil-militias-in-northern-africa-echoes-of-gaddafis-islamic-legion

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President W. Bush fuked him over... Read:

According to Gaddafi's former Foreign Minister, Abdel Rahman Shalgham, the event which ultimately caused Gaddafi to give up his WMDs and nuclear weapons program was a reported 2001 message from U.S. President George W. Bush which told Gaddafi that “either you get rid of your weapons of mass destruction or [the United States] will personally destroy them and destroy everything with no discussion.”[5] Libyan officials began to meet covertly with British, Russian, and U.S. officials to officially dismantle the program. In March 2003, days before the invasion of Iraq, Gaddafi's personal envoys contacted U.S. President George W. Bush, Russian President Vladimir Putin, and British Prime Minister Tony Blair about Libya's willingness to dismantle its nuclear program.[6] Subsequently, at Gaddafi's direction, Libyan officials provided British, Russian, and U.S. diplomats with documentation and additional details on Libya's chemical, biological, nuclear, and ballistic missile activities. Libya reportedly allowed Russian, U.S., and British officials to visit 10 previously secret sites and dozens of Libyan laboratories and military factories to search for evidence of nuclear fuel cycle-related activities, and for chemical and missile programs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarmament_of_Libya

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Ahmed Sanussi  -

Ahmed al-Senussi (arabe : أحمد الزبير الشريف) né en 1933, également connu sous le nom de Zubeir Ahmed El-Sharif, appartient à la famille royale de Libye. Il a été membre du Conseil national de transition (représentant des prisonniers politiques), apparu pendant la révolution libyenne de 2011 et dissous le 8 août 2012.
Il est le petit-neveu d'Idris Ier, roi de Libye 1951 à 1969. Il tient son nom de son grand-père, Ahmed Sharif as-Senussi. Il sort diplômé de l'Académie militaire d'Irak en 1953. En 1961, il épouse sa compagne Fatilah, depuis décédée.
En 1970, il commence à projeter l'idée de renverser Mouammar Kadhafi, au pouvoir depuis son coup d'État militaire un an plus tôt. Avec son frère et d'autres conspirateurs, il a cherché à remplacer le gouvernement tout en permettant au peuple de choisir entre la monarchie ou une république constitutionnelle. Cela échoue, il a été arrêté et condamné à mort. En 1988, sa peine a été commuée à 13 années d'emprisonnement. Il est resté incarcéré les neuf premières années et fréquemment torturé. Il affirmera par la suite que la torture consistait en de fréquents coups de bâtons ou de simulations de noyade. Il est finalement sorti de l'isolement, puis partage une cellule avec de nombreux autres prisonniers, dont Omar El-Hariri. Après avoir été transféré à la prison d'Abou Salim en 1984, il apprit que sa femme était morte pendant sa captivité. Il a été gracié le jour du 32e anniversaire de la prise de pouvoir par Kadhafi : détenu comme prisonnier politique pendant 31 années, jusqu'à sa libération en 2001, il est alors l'opposant politique incarcéré le plus longtemps dans l'histoire de la Libye moderne.
Le 27 octobre 2011, le Parlement européen le choisit avec quatre autres personnalités arabes pour recevoir le Prix Sakharov.

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As is noted this leaves-man is a barely literate scatterbrain. The issue is about whether Libyan are better off now--3 years after the murder of MG--than before.

Rather than deal with that issue the dumb punk with a brain now all much because of those leaves veers off into issues he knows nothing about. Just absolutely ridiculous.

A mind--especially on leaves--is a terrible thing to waste--especially when there was little of it start with. This jackass deserves a hearty LOL.

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The issue is whether Africans are better off. The Islamic Jihadist would not stop undermining African nations and seeking to reduce black people to house-boys in their own continent.

That is why we will keep revealing MUUR stories about this your Islamic Jamahiriya master - Gadafi.

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Ablah blah ablah ... This jackass deserves a hearty LOL.

Honey

Your master Kadafi often behaved like an Islamic Jihadi hyena, no kidding! Look at the mess he left in Central African Republic:

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Gaddafi intervened militarily in the Central African Republic in 2001 to protect his ally Ange-Félix Patassé. Patassé signed a deal giving Libya a 99-year lease to exploit all of that country's natural resources, including uranium, copper, diamonds, and oil. See Farah, Douglas (4 March 2011). "Harvard for Tyrants". Foreign Policy.
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
The issue is about whether Libyan are better off now--3 years after the murder of MG--than before.

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Honey,

This is about the limbs and blood of African black people, that Kadafi your boy used as political game pieces...

Read MUUR:

Bashir says Kadhafi regime's fall 'best gift' to Sudan

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Bashir's arrival in Tripoli marked his first Libya visit since Kadhafi was ousted (AFP)


By Jay Deshmukh (AFP) – Jan 7, 2012
TRIPOLI — Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir, wanted globally for genocide and war crimes, said on Saturday in Tripoli that the fall of Moamer Kadhafi's regime was the "best gift" to his country from Libya.
His arrival in Tripoli marked Bashir's first Libya visit since Kadhafi was ousted, but the trip faced strong criticism from New York-based Human Rights Watch, which said that hosting such an "international fugitive" sent troubling signals about the commitment of Libya's new rulers to human rights.
Wanted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) since 2009 on charges of genocide and war crimes in Sudan's war-torn Darfur region, Bashir said that after Libya, Kadhafi inflicted the most damage in Sudan.
"We came to thank the Libyan thwars (revolutionaries) for what they gave us, the best gift to Sudan in its modern history," Bashir, referring to Kadhafi's overthrow, said at a joint press conference with Libya's Mustafa Abdel Jalil, the head of the National Transitional Council.
"Injustice, aggression and violence led to the division of Sudan, and this had the direct support of Kadhafi," said Bashir.
"When I visited Libya (during Kadhafi's rule), everyone thought we were friends, but I was stabbed with a knife in the back," the Sudanese leader added.
Bashir, who claims that Sudan provided weapons to help oust Kadhafi, said the latest visit felt "like it was the first time," adding that he came to underline Sudan's support for the Libyan people and the country's new government that took charge after ending four decades of dictatorship.
Khartoum had an uneasy relationship with Kadhafi's Libya. The former Libyan strongman, who was also wanted by the ICC for suppressing the revolt against him, poured arms across the border into Darfur and long sought greater influence in Sudan's ravaged western region.
Bashir has claimed that a deadly 2008 attack on Khartoum by the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM), the most heavily armed Darfur rebel group, was financed by the Libyan government and fought with Libyan weapons.
In 2010, Kadhafi's regime offered sanctuary to JEM leader Khalil Ibrahim, who was killed in Sudan last month after his return to the country.
Libya's presence was felt in a different way in the capital Khartoum, where state-run Lafico, the Libyan Foreign Investment Company, spent 130 million euros (190 million dollars) building the Burj al-Fateh Hotel, which opened in 2008. With its egg-shaped design, Sudan's flashiest accommodation became a city landmark.
Richard Dicker, international justice director at Human Rights Watch, strongly criticised Bashir's visit to Libya.
"Omar al-Bashir is an international fugitive from an arrest warrant for genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes," Dicker told AFP by telephone from New York.
"His arrival in Tripoli sends a disturbing signal about NTC's commitment to human rights and the rule of law."
Dicker said the rule of law should take precedence over political ties.
"Whatever the political history and ties between the NTC and Omar al-Bashir in the past, respect for human rights, not to mention concerns for hundreds of thousands of Darfur victims, takes priority," he said.
"This is what adhering to the rule of law is all about."
Sudanese rebels seeking to overthrow Bashir also urged Libya to arrest him.
"We are calling for the Libyan authorities to arrest Bashir and send him to the ICC because he committed crimes against his people in Darfur," Ibrahim al-Hillu, of Darfur's Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) faction headed by Abdelwahid Nur, told AFP.
He was speaking on behalf of the Sudanese Revolutionary Front formed last year that groups together two other Darfur rebel groups, including the JEM, and the SPLM-N rebels based elsewhere in Sudan.
He asked Libya's new leaders not to provide funding to Bashir "because he is using this money to kill" his own people.
When asked about Libya's approach to international justice, Abdel Jalil, standing alongside Bashir, said that "Tripoli was not outside Arab and African organisations."
Libya is not legally bound to arrest Bashir as it is not a signatory to the ICC's founding Rome Statute.
The fighting in Darfur, which first erupted between non-Arab rebels and the Arab-dominated Khartoum government in 2003, has killed at least 300,000 people, according to the United Nations.
Khartoum puts the death toll at 10,000.
Abdel Jalil, meanwhile, said Libya would invest in Sudan's agriculture and real estate sectors.
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Self-promoting political show man. His highest rank in the military before the coup was a lieutenant. Then he wanted to be His Imperial Majesty.. of Africa...

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"Gaddafi's strong military support and finances gained him allies across the continent. He had himself crowned with the title "King of Kings of Africa" in 2008, in the presence of over 200 African traditional rulers and kings, although his views on African political and military unification received a lukewarm response from their governments. His 2009 forum for African kings was canceled by the Ugandan hosts, who believed that traditional rulers discussing politics would lead to instability. On 1 February 2009, a 'coronation ceremony' in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, was held to coincide with the 53rd African Union Summit, at which he was elected head of the African Union for the year."

Meanwhile this was the king Idris of Libya:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-98jqcXcL18#t=60

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Justice will ever chase you and your Islamic political master Kadafi way into the enfer...

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Wanna be illuminati. Spot the ghost in this picture:

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Moral? Don't punch above your weight...

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The destruction of Libya and the mass murder of the black Tagawan Libyans by the West and their mercenaries was a crime against humanity. The raped, lynching and killing of the Libyan President Muammar Kaddafi live on TV was barbaric and a human right violation.

Mouammar Kaddafi was a good chief of state who transformed Libya from being a poor state to the richest country in Africa with the greatest social wefare in the world. M Kaddafi wasn't a perfect leader like Western, Arabs and African chief of state he make mistakes. Kaddafi probably commited mistakes by supporting the wrong chief of states and the wrong rebel groups. Mouammar Kaddafi also did a lot of good thing. M Kaddafi was the greatest supporter of Nelson Mandela and the ANC in their fight against apartheid. Nelson Mandela was grateful to Kaddafi until the end.

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I think the Israeli, Lebanese and South African diamonds dealer were responsible for the Liberian and Sierra Leone civil war were Fode Sanko barbarian guerilla was cutting the hand of African people. I cant blame Kaddafi, the Israeli and Lebanese diamond dealers for an African guerilla cutting the hands of their African brothers and sisters. Fode Sanko and his guerilla was a bunch of evil and self hating people.

Mouammar Kaddafi open the door of his country for millions of black Africans workers. No other countries in North Africa and West Asia would have done the same thing. He gave African countries $400 million to buy their first satellite. The reason the USA, the UK and France destroyed Libya and murdered M Kaddafi was because he was planning to create an African gold dinar currency and an African bank that would have challenge the petrodollar and the Franc CFA fraud.

The Libyan president Muammar Kaddafi good and bad achievements should be weighted in the balance of Goddess Maat. I think M Kaddafi good achievements on earth weigh more then his mistakes.

3 years of the destruction of Libya by the West and the lynching of the black Libyans Libya is not better. Libya went from being the Switzerland of Africa aka the richest state in Africa into a failed state divided between guerillas and Islamic terrorist groups. Remember the USA ambassador was lynched by the Libyan terrorist groups. Libyan Islamic terrorists are destabilizing africa attacking Mali, Nigeria, RCA, Algeria etc. The guerilla and terrorists groups are selling Libyan oil to foreign countries without the approval of the central government.

Lioness posted that James Davidson video on Libya and the petrodollar.
http://pro.sovereignsociety.com/99NDP/PNDPQ210/

James Davidson list Muammar Kaddafi achievements.
Libya nickname the Switzerland of North Africa was the most successful capitalist-socialist country in modern history. The Libyan Jamahariya state should be a model for all the countries in the world. Libyan social capitalist achievements was:

0% interest bank loan
50% government subsidy in buying a car (who doesn't like that)
Everyone in Libya was housed (rent is very expensive in USA big cities)
Every month every Libyan received $400 from the sale of oil. (Only in Muslim countries, The Saudi, Kuwaiti governments also used to give their people free money)
Free education from kindergarten to post graduate school (students in the USA have $900 billion of school debt)
Free healthcare in Libya.
Unemployed Libyan professional was paid the market salary for their profession by the government until they find a job.
If a Libyan want to be a farmer the government gave them free land, house, tools, seeds etc.
Electricity and water was free
15 cents would buy 40 loaves of bread(best way to eliminate world hunger)
gallons of gas cost 15 cents
Libya had zero debt, 144 tons of gold reserve, great surplus and low crime.
Libya had 6000 years supply of underground fresh water.
Libya canal and irrigation system that took water from the desert underground reserve to the coastal cities was called the eight wonder of the world.
Libya was in the process of creating an African currency back up by gold call gold dinar.

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If what Mena posted is true about the currency part...Then of course thats the reason why Europe and the USA attacked Gaddafi. They like how Napeloen said about Hati, Dont want Blacks coming up or having a sense of pride, without white involvement.

Think about it people. Libya was the bastion of doing it the right way in there country....All the good things and I will repost them show just how wealthy they were.

To claim that Gadaafi is responsible for African children losing limbs is a stretch but could be true too.

But we know that MANY Lebenese live and work in the diamond trade and most diamonds go to the west...rarely stays in africa.

Also none can attack gadaffi without attacking most african rulers...Mandela SUPPORTED gadaffi for one..and also we have African leaders who spen money on HUGE Churches(I think the largest in the world....they also steal from the people.

Look at Angola and its corruption...Has one of the highest discrpenceys in wealth between the haves ad the have nots.

Gabon people are poor, children(20%) dont reach the age of 5 and yet its regarded as one of the highest GDP in Africa. This aint Qaddafi faults and pointing out his problem while ignoring the problem of others is just one sided.

Why did Mali now fight terrorist, Why Algeria attacked...Why Did the Central African Republic almost in civil war...why is libyas weapons being blamed for violence in other continents.


Fact is that there is nothing called a perfect leader..Point out his faults is one thing...point out the good is another.

Africans found jobs in Libya and Libya hosted them meanwhile the rest of north africa dispises SSAs.

I guess we will have to wait to see if this is for the best of Africa and Libya

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quote:
Originally posted by mena7:
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I think the Israeli, Lebanese and South African diamonds dealer were responsible for the Liberian and Sierra Leone civil war were Fode Sanko barbarian guerilla was cutting the hand of African people. I cant blame Kaddafi, the Israeli and Lebanese diamond dealers for an African guerilla cutting the hands of their African brothers and sisters. Fode Sanko and his guerilla was a bunch of evil and self hating people.

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mena7 do you have evidence of this? If so post it, if not go back and read my posts slowly. Are you sure of what you are repeating???

Don't forget that Mandela wined and dined with many of his enemies... and made friends with all nations

Yet, South Africa and Nigeria were the two African countries that constantly called Kadafi to order.

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MUUR information about Gaddhafi and Foday Sankoh:

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After his expulsion from Sierra Leone’s army for involvement in an attempted coup, Foday Sankoh traveled to Libya where Muammar Gaddafi provided him with guerilla training along with many other West African rebel leaders. Upon his return to Sierra Leone, he formed the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), a guerrilla group bent on wresting power from President Joseph Momoh through military coup. His force was composed of a peculiar set of individuals. It lacked support from any particular national, social, or ethnic group. Rather, the RUF was made up of an eclectic group of uneducated and alienated bandits in pursuit of personal gain (“Revolutionary”). Among the list of Africa’s greatest terrorizers Sankoh was not known for having killed the greatest number of his countrymen but for killing the most cruelly. His soldiers were known to regularly cut off hands and feet, so that victims would be unable to grow rice that might later feed government soldiers. Hands were specifically cut off to prevent voting in national elections. At times, his soldiers would bet on the sex of an unborn baby and then proceed to cut the mother open to find out (Economist). Sankoh was captured by a mob in 2000 and handed over to international court. He appeared to have gone insane while in captivity and eventually died of a stroke in July of 2012 (Economist).

http://moodle.davidson.edu/moodle2/mod/wiki/view.php?id=43943


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Give some of Gaddafi’s held money to Sierra Leone and Liberia

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By Kofi Akosah-Sarpong

US Congressman Brad Sherman (Democrat, California) thinks in the wake of NATO’s expensive operations in Libya to contain Muammar Gaddafi’s attempts to kill protestors and the budget battle on Capitol Hill, the seized Gaddafi money, totaling over US$100 billion, should be used to pay for the Libyan no fly zone operations. That makes sense because of the humanitarian nature of the operations.

What also makes sense, humanly, are some Sierra Leoneans and Liberians at home and abroad campaigning for some of Gaddafi’s apprehended money be given to their struggling country as mandated by the United Nations Special Court for Sierra Leone.

Short of charges of crimes against humanity and war crimes the UN Special Court for Sierra Leone authorized Gaddafi to pay compensations for the victims of the civil war some of whom were murdered, raped, maimed and mutilated.



Over a million Sierra Leoneans and Liberian were killed as a result of the Gaddafi induced war. Gaddafi did train, finance and encourage the deadly rebel groups Revolutionary United Front (RUF) and the National Patriotic Front of Liberia.

Swinging between sanity and insanity, Gaddafi came to the agonizing conclusion that he has caused irreparable damages to some Africans and decided to give some sort of financial aid.

Gibril Koroma, the Sierra Leonean publisher of the Vancouver, British Columbia based thepatrioticvanguard.com, making the case for Sierra Leonean victims wrote that, “A couple of years ago, Gaddafi realized he had hurt Africa too much and he started what he may have considered a reconciliation process by giving away millions of dollars in raw cash and all sorts of other gifts like cars and tractors to African leaders. He has also been financing the United States of Africa project scheduled to kick off by 2017.”

But the real victims of Gaddafi’s atrocities – amputations, murders, raping, maiming and mutilations – the ordinary, innocent Sierra Leoneans and Liberians did not receive any of what Gibril Koroma indicated. Now is the time for them to get their compensations direct from Gaddafi’s looted billions. Their case is as reasonable and human as US Congressman Brad Sherman’s arguments for NATO.

The Sierra Leonean journalist and academic Aroun Rashid Deen, currently a doctoral candidate at New York University, in making the case for Gaddafi to pay compensation to Sierra Leonean and Liberian fatalities, argued that “Muammar Gaddafi was the mastermind and key financier of the brutal war that left hundreds of thousands dead in Sierra Leone in West Africa in the 1990s.

The war would not have happened in the first place had it not been for the desire of the Libyan leader to punish the government of Sierra Leone for what he regarded as its siding with the West in the 1980’s when Gaddafi was at loggerhead with particularly the United States and Britain.

“It was also part of Gaddafi’s broader agenda including his geopolitical ambition to destabilize much of West Africa and establish satellite states in the region to be headed by puppet regimes that will be doing his biddings. The decade-long war ripped Sierra Leone apart. Thousands of its victims, whose arms and limbs were chopped off by rebels, were reduced to paupers, roaming the streets as beggars in Freetown and other cities. Children as young as a day old were also among those whose arms and limbs were hacked off by Gaddafi’s rebels. Pregnant women, too, were disemboweled with delight in their display of ghastly brutality.”

http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1870:give-some-of-gaddafis-held-money-to-sierra-leone-and-liberia&catid=110:kofi-akosah-sarpong-art icles&Itemid=649

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Qaddafi Warns France: If I Go Down, You Will Be Flooded With "Millions Of Blacks"

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Qaddafi's latest gambit: Convince the European public that they really want him to stick around, with all the stability that entails.

He spoke today to TV network France 24.

This quote (via Reuters) certainly stands out:

"There are millions of blacks who could come to the Mediterranean to cross to France and Italy, and Libya plays a role in security in the Mediterranean."

Bear in mind that after the fall of Tunisia's Ben Ali, Italy has seen a wave of immigrants that continue today.

See more here at France 24:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCuZeKB19iQ


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/qaddafi-warns-france-if-i-go-down-you-will-be-flooded-with-millions-of-blacks-2011-3#ixzz2w03nG3op

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Simply Disgusting.

Gadaffi started a war in Sierra Leone and had children maimed and killed and people are saying that he is a good man..I did not even know about this bullshit.

Really a Leader destabilized Liberia and Sierra Leone simply because they sided with the west and not with that stupid country Libya???

Filthy and disgusting...When your anger falls upon the children you have no legs to stand on.

Thanks Ironlion for clearing that up.

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King,
You know nothing about the war in Sierra Leone. Don't be put off by the stuoide chatter of a dissolute leaves smoker wo one day never set foot in Africa.

The wars in Liberia and Sierra Leone with the CIA sponsored coup against Tolbert in Liberia. At that time the CIA had the biggest tracking station in Africa in Liberia at that time. Why? Because Tolbert let loose some chatter about Pan African cooperation just after the OAU held its conference there. The coup was led my the near illiterate Samuel Doe who was ushered in and recognised by the U.S. as the new President of Liberia. Before that 13 members of Tolbert's government regime[mainly of the Americo-Liberian group[called "Congos" in Liberia] were executed at South Beach, Monrovia. The U.S. government then went ahead to recognise Doe's government.


Doe's reign was ruinous and very corrupt. This led to a number of attempted coups and rebellions. Charles Taylor was a U.S. educated member of Doe's government who was eventually dismissed for embezzlement of $1 million. Taylor fled to the U.S. where he was arrested on an extradition charge.

But Doe's rule was so corrupt and violent that the U.S. quietly figured that Taylor could be their new puppet in Liberia. He was allowed to escape from prison and flew to Ivory Coast where he was supported by long-term U.S. ally and friend Houphouet Boigny--on U.S. promptings.

Taylor then mounted a war against Doe with support from prominent Liberians including the current President of Liberia, Nobel Prize winner, Helen Johnson-Sirleaf, and very close friend and ally of the U.S.

In the civil war that ensued Doe was eventually caught and tortured to death. Elections were held to stop the war and Taylor won. He was still being supported by Helen Sirleaf Johnson. The U.S. recognised the Taylor regime.

The war in Sierra Leone began in Eastern Sierra Leone and a chronology of events according to reports show that there is no mention of Libya being involved in the war and political events that took place from 1991 to 2002. The countries playing roles in the war are the U.S.[ following its secret release of Taylor], Nigeria, South Africa, Britain, Canada, Britain, and others.

The atrocities committed by the crazy, drug riddled RUF were of their OWN independent volition.

The point is that nowhere in the reliable Africa Confidential document and the BBC[they lie and distort for the British government when necessary] is there any mention of Libya.

Libya's foreign policy at the time was to counter American and French imperialism and neocolonialism at the time. Both Liberia and Chad were areas where both Western nations were involved.

Charles once traveled to Libya for so-called "training in guerrilla warfare"--but the details on that are fuzzy. For many years the West has claimed that the Lockerbie air disaster was mounted by Libya. But the vile West knew all along that it was Iran--but pinned the blame on Libya.

But the U.S. and its puppet government Canada are heavily involved in the wicked NATO destruction of Libya and their on-going wicked efforts to destroy Syria. Now they are pushing for war against Russia. What are they but fomentors of despicable crimes against humanity--under colour of BS talk about democracy.

The silly chatter by the leaves-smoker is just meant to distract from the posted issue. It should be obvious that anyone who talks stupidly about "Muurs" and supports a stupid cult whose main activities in life are laze around drugged out on leaves and to run degradingly after pale/pink females should not be taken seriously at all. What you have here is a dizzy and confused fantasist mouthing off on matters it/he/she knows almost zero about.

http://www.africa-confidential.com/special-report/id/4/Chronology_of_Sierra_Leone

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-13732188

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quote:
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King,

Blah ablah...blah..ablah...

Charles [Taylor] once traveled to Libya for so-called "training in guerrilla warfare"--but the details on that are fuzzy. ....

Honey

You just shot yourself in the mouth..

Case closed! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Here are the details:
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Colonel Gadhafi's school for scoundrels

http://metro.co.uk/2011/03/15/revealed-colonel-gaddafis-world-revolutionary-center-644456/


Colonel Muammar Gaddafi is infamous for abuses he has inflicted on his own people but less well known is a campaign of carnage he inspired across Africa and Latin America.


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(Sands of time: Rebels hostile to the regime of Col Gaddafi emerge from the desert where once he trained future tyrants)


At the height of his power, Col Muammar Gaddafi was singled out by MI5 as the greatest state-sponsored terror threat of the 1980s.

It was a time when the Libyan leader is said to have become bound to repressive regimes and armed movements worldwide.

Flush with oil money, Gaddafi orchestrated a training campaign for students who became brutal warlords in Africa, a legacy which leaves the region unstable today, according to Douglas Farah, senior fellow at the International Assessment And Strategy Center in Virginia, US.

The national security consultant and analyst says: ‘Gaddafi’s World Revolutionary Center (WRC) near Benghazi, Libya, became, as scholar Stephen Ellis noted in his 2001 book, The Mask Of Anarchy, the “Harvard and Yale of a whole generation of African revolutionaries”, many of them the continent’s most notorious tyrants.’

The desert training camps taught weapons and intelligence techniques, with doses of ideology from Gaddafi’s Green Book.

‘Courses lasted from a few weeks to more than a year, depending on the level of specialisation and rank one had,’ says Farah.

‘In addition to the African contingents, Gaddafi’s cells trained the Sandinistas from Nicaragua, along with other Latin American revolutionary movements and, in the process, built an enduring relationship with Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua and Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez.

Gaddafi, Ortega and Chávez also developed close ties with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc), a terrorist group reportedly producing more than half of the world’s cocaine.’

At the WRC in the 1980s and 1990s, a select group of students formed a fraternity who provided mutual support in their ruthless campaigns for power.

‘That network still wields considerable influence today through its alumni still in power, including Blaise Compaoré of Burkina Faso and Idriss Déby of Chad,’ says Farah.

‘His closest ally in Africa was Robert Mugabe , who although not a WRC product, has been propped up by Libyan donations and subsidised oil shipments.’

Muammar Gaddafi and Robert Mugabe
Libyan leader Gaddafi embraces Zimbabwe leader Robert Mugabe
Relations have been more strained recently as Zimbabwe could not repay its Libyan debts.

However, Farah says: ‘Gaddafi has done well out of his investments, acquiring at least 20 luxurious properties and a stake in some of the few still-viable state enterprises after riding to Mugabe’s rescue.

Gaddafi also intervened militarily in the Central African Republic in 2001.

The president he protected, Ange-Félix Patassé, signed a deal giving Libya a 99-year lease to exploit all of the country’s natural resources, including uranium, copper, diamonds and oil.’

Farah, a former West Africa bureau chief for The Washington Post, adds: ‘Liberia, a US stronghold in the Cold War, was also targeted after a US bombing attack in 1986 against Libya killed one of Gaddafi’s adopted daughters.

‘Gaddafi recruited Liberia’s Charles Taylor, who is now standing trial for crimes against humanity, including the abduction of children for combat, systematic rape and mass murder.

‘Another recruit, Foday Sankoh of Sierra Leone’s Revolutionary United Front (RUF), would be standing trial in the same court for similar crimes had he not died of natural causes.’

Sankoh formed the RUF under Taylor’s auspices and together they pioneered their signature atrocity in the 1990s.

‘The amputation of the arms and legs of men, women, and children as part of a scorched-earth campaign was designed to take over the region’s rich diamond fields and was backed by Gaddafi, who routinely reviewed their progress and supplied weapons,’ says Farah.

Compaoré, the current president of Burkina Faso, is another WRC graduate.

In 1987, troops loyal to him assassinated his best friend, president Thomas Sankara, to pave the way for him to take power.

Compaoré sent troops and resources to back both Taylor’s insurgency in Liberia and the RUF in Sierra Leone.

A 2002 United Nations investigation found Compaoré played a significant role in arming them in violation of a UN arms embargo.

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Excerpted with permission from global politics and economics magazine Foreign Policy. www.foreignpolicy.com


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Muammar al-Gaddafi: Obstacle to African unity

Horace Campbell

2010-03-25, Issue 475

http://pambazuka.org/en/category/panafrican/63299

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Following Muammar al-Gaddafi's suggestion of a break-up of Nigeria in the wake of the crisis around Jos, Horace Campbell unpacks the Libyan leader's claims to operate in the interests of African unity.
Muammar al-Gaddafi has established himself as an enemy of the unification of the peoples of Africa for over 40 years. Last week, Gaddafi exceeded his conservative instincts when he stated before a group of young students that Nigeria should be split in two. Instead of motivating the students to work for the transformation and unification of the peoples of Nigeria as one prerequisite for the unification of Africa, Gaddafi called for the country to be divided on religious grounds. He exposed his ignorance of African religious and spiritual traditions because there was no room for followers of African religious beliefs in his call for the division of this society. This call for the division of Nigeria is one more effort to break up Nigerian society so that this society is weakened and its people subjected to more exploitation and manipulation. For 40 years Gaddafi had supported the butchers and dictators in Africa. Starting with his military support for Idi Amin of Uganda and other murderers such as Foday Sankoh and Charles Taylor, this militarist in Libya was an obstacle to African liberation. For a short while after Nelson Mandela rescued him from obscurity, Gaddafi had sought to use his wealth to buy the leadership of the African Union (AU). He was made to understand that the unity of Africa was more profound than the meeting of leaders of states. The statements of Gadafi on Nigeria must be condemned in the strongest terms and it is time to strip away the fallacy that Gaddafi stood in the ranks of African revolutionary leadership.

Gaddafi is energetically seeking to replace the legacy of Kwame Nkrumah. Although he cannot point to a text as powerful as Nkrumah's book, 'Africa Must Unite', Gaddafi has used his oil wealth to suborn a group of sycophantic African leaders who have heaped praise on his leadership. For the past 10 years, the image of Gaddafi as the leader of the African Union has been promoted by a fawning group of leaders in Africa, and the international media was only too willing to oblige in order to obliterate the traditions of Marcus Garvey, W.E.B. DuBois, Kwame Nkrumah, Amílcar Cabral, Cheikh Anta Diop, Frantz Fanon, Patrice Lumumba and Samora Machel, who were strong advocates of African unity. Gaddafi himself used the oil resources of Libya to harness the support of servile self-seekers who refused to pay their dues to the OAU (Organisation of African Unity) and AU while salting away billions in foreign banks.



Progressive Pan-Africanists supported the project of the unification of the peoples of Africa in order to transcend the Berlinist state in Africa. By the 'Berlinist state', we mean those states that were carved out at the Berlin Conference in 1885. In reality, the progressive Pan-African project seeks to build on the ideas of Cheikh Anta Diop in relation to the psychological, linguistic and cultural unity of Africa. The people have always been for unity because they do not respect the colonial borders. One does not have to ask the Maasai whether they respect the borders between Kenya and Tanzania, or ask the Makonde whether they respect the false division of their communities. Anthony Asiwaju has written on the full impact of partitioned Africa, and the task of Pan-Africanists at home and abroad is to now build on the work of those who will work to end the divisions of the peoples. African women at the grassroots are opposed to the borders and the traders show that no colonial borders can restrain them.

It is the present leaders who are maintaining the borders in order to maintain themselves in power. There are many questions in Africa that urgently require cooperation across the false borders. Environmental degradation, tsetse fly infestation, HIV/AIDS and malaria know no border. Confronting these challenges requires new thinking and new leadership. The project of African unity is one which in the short run will require the replacement of most of the leaders in Africa, and the building of a new leadership from the grassroots.

It is time to draw a line between those so-called leaders and the people of Africa. Gaddafi himself has drawn the line by exposing the fact that he is opposed to the unity of the peoples of Africa. From the time he came to power in 1969, Gaddafi has wittingly and unwittingly served the interest of the enemies of Africa. He has also served as an enemy of the Palestinian people.

SUPPORTING BUTCHERS

When Gaddafi seized power in September 1969, there were divisions among Western political circles about the meaning of his assumption of power. After Gaddafi nationalised foreign oil companies, the US identified him as a dangerous radical, but the European imperial forces saw his assumption of power as a force to support anti-communism. Gaddafi in the early 1970s presented himself as a follower of Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt. Libya used the oil resources to increase the standard of living of the ordinary Libyan people and Gaddafi declared Libya to be the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya. However, very soon the revolutionary rhetoric, when stripped away, revealed a megalomaniac person who interfered in the internal affairs of genuine liberation movements. Gaddafi soon alienated the Egyptian people, as well as the Palestinian people, by seeking to meddle in the internal affairs of the resistance forces in Palestine.

On the African continent, Gaddafi became the friend of the worst dictators. His relationship with Idi Amin, who regime murdered more than 300,000, stands out in this regard. The Libyan Arab Bank financed the ventures of Idi Amin’s henchmen and the Libyan army fought alongside Idi Amin’s army when Amin invaded Tanzania in 1978. This attack on Tanzania was an effort by Amin to divert attention from the struggle against apartheid and colonialism in Rhodesia and South Africa. Tanzania had been the frontline state bearing the brunt of the fight against the white racist apartheid government. In the midst of this war against apartheid, Amin attacked Tanzania. Algeria supported Tanzania and Mozambique who were clear on the reasons for the Ugandan attack. The Libyan and Ugandan army were roundly defeated by the Tanzanian forces. When Libyan soldiers were captured, Gaddafi attempted to buy them back from Tanzania. But Nyerere returned these prisoners of war, and said that there should not be a price on human beings.

DISAPPEARANCE OF MUSA AL-SADR

In the same period when Gaddafi was supporting Idi Amin, Sayyid Mūsá al-Ṣadr, a well-known Islamic cleric from Lebanon, disappeared when he was on a visit to Libya in 1978. Musa al-Sadr had acted as a unifier and reconciler within Lebanon. His patient work among the Shia and Sunni communities had ensured that war did not break out between these two communities. Musa al-Sadr was invited to Libya in 1978 and has since disappeared. Since his absence from the Lebanese scene, the society has plunged into conflicts and wars for 30 years. Once divided and weakened, the Israelis and the Falangists took advantage of the absence of Musa al-Sadr to perpetuate war. The Israeli army has also been a direct beneficiary of the disappearance of Musa al-Sadr. Gaddafi has a lot to answer for in the context of the wars in Lebanon. It is with the knowledge of the disappearance of Musa al-Sadr that Africans have to denounce in the strongest terms the call by Gaddafi for the break-up of Nigeria.

GADDAFI’S TEMPORARY REHABILITATION

During the anti-apartheid struggle, most leaders in Africa had to support liberation, and Gaddafi did give moral, material and military support to freedom fighters in southern Africa. But this support for African freedom fighters did not end the mischief-making and interference of Gaddafi. In the early 1980s, Gaddafi was supporting butchers in Sudan, Chad and other parts of Africa. Despite this mischief, Gaddafi was able to get the support of freedom fighters because the US government under Ronald Reagan bombed Libya in 1986. This imperial bombing garnered more support for Gaddafi and gave him credibility as an 'anti-imperialist' leader. Because of the ambiguous nature of his leadership, Libya was caught in the middle of the Lockerbie disaster when the Pan Am 103 plane was blown over Scotland. After the Lockerbie incident, Libya was placed on the list of states sponsoring terrorism.

MANDELA’S INTERVENTION IN 1997

Nelson Mandela had been branded a terrorist by the West, so he worked hard to clear the matter of the Lockerbie bombing. He successfully negotiated with the G7 so that the impasse between the West and Libya was significantly watered down. This intervention by Mandela to bring clarity to the question did not clear the cloud over exactly what happened in Lockerbie. Although two Libyans were later tried in a neutral country where one of them was convicted, their lawyer continued to claim their innocence. This issue remained murky because at the time of the bombing in 1988, the Western media had blamed Syria and Iran, among others, as culprits.

GADDAFI AND THE AFRICAN UNION

As a result of Mandela’s intervention, Gaddafi, who previously had been parading himself as a leader of the Arab world, now presented himself as a great leader of Africa, and convened an extraordinary summit of the OAU in Sirte in 1999. The fact that between 1999 and 2002 the Constitutive Act of the African Union was written and ratified is now history, and Gaddafi deserves credit for his leadership on this. But at the same time, while he was working for the unity of Africa, Gaddafi was financing butchers such as Charles Taylor and Foday Sankoh. Other dictators such as Yoweri Museveni of Uganda and Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe were supported by Gaddafi. In fact, when democratic forces in Uganda and Zimbabwe were involved in a prolonged struggle to end dictatorship, Gaddafi said a revolutionary should never retire.

The contradictory utterances of Gaddafi must be analysed against the real actions of the Libyan state in relation to African peoples. Many Pan-Africanists cheered when Libya successfully pressured the Italians to consider the reparative claims of Libya and to return Libyan cultural artefacts. Libya was also promised US$5 billion by Italy. However, this reparative claim was overshadowed by the realisation that the Libyans had made an agreement with the Italians to act as the police for the Italians to control the movements of African immigrants. These agreements between Libya and Italy reinforced in the minds of the African youth the fact that Libya was a hostile place for Africans who believed in Africa for the Africans. Hostile relations between African immigrants and Libyans resulted in the deaths of hundreds of African immigrants in Libya. As a leader who claimed the mantle of Pan-African leadership, Gaddafi needed to give clearer leadership to his people on the question of xenophobia. Some of our Pan-African brothers and sisters condemned Gaddafi as an Arab, but one must see his actions as similar to the leadership of Thabo Mbeki. Mbeki spoke and wrote on African renaissance but refused to give leadership when xenophobic violence broke out against African immigrants. Gaddafi is like many African leaders who speak publicly about African unity but persecute Africans who seek to work and live in other parts of Africa.

While serving as chairman of the African Union, Gaddafi contravened the African Commission on Human and People’s Rights. There was the execution of African migrants in Libya, and putting many on death row in Libya. Indeed, Gaddafi’s tenure as chair of the AU represented a low period for African progressives. His rambling and undisciplined presentation at the United Nations in 2009 was a poor reflection on Africa. But his presence in the USA was a result of a new alliance between the oil barons in the USA and the Libyan government. After the French government mooted the establishment of the Mediterranean Union to counter the United States in Africa, sections of the US ruling circles started to court Gaddafi. Since the visit of Condoleezza Rice to Tripoli, Gaddafi has been silent in his opposition to AFRICOM. In May 2006 Time Magazine said that George W. Bush and Gaddafi see ‘eye to eye'.

Last week, Gaddafi exposed himself very clearly when he called for the division of Nigeria along religious lines. Progressive Pan-Africanists condemned this statement and joined with the Nigerian people who reject this call for division. Nigerian youths and progressives will work to end religious, regional and ethnic manipulations. Religion, ethnicity and regional ideologies are not in themselves political factors. They become so in circumstances where the people’s forces are weakened. The call by Gaddafi is for the weakening of the people’s forces in Nigeria at precisely a moment when Nigeria should be building unity, peace and reconstruction. Gaddafi is an obstacle to the unification of African peoples. African unity is not for sale.

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quote:
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Originally posted by lamin:
King,

Blah ablah...blah..ablah...

Charles [Taylor] once traveled to Libya for so-called "training in guerrilla warfare"--but the details on that are fuzzy. ....

Never again!!:
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Honey

You just shot yourself in the mouth..

Case closed! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]



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Taylor managed to flee the United States and shortly thereafter it is assumed that he went to Libya, where he underwent guerrilla training under Muammar Gaddafi, becoming Gaddafi's protégé .[17] Eventually, he left Libya and traveled to the Ivory Coast, where he founded the National Patriotic Front of Liberia (NPFL).

In December 1989, Taylor launched a Gaddafi-funded armed uprising from the Ivory Coast into Liberia to overthrow the Doe regime, leading to the First Liberian Civil War.)

Wikipedia

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I think many Liberians thought, that Taylor's war would be short, sharp and successful.

He had the backing of Libya's Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and some of Liberia's near neighbours.


Charles Taylor spent eight years fighting in the bush

He had money, guns, and ammunition and, at first, considerable popular support.

But it took him more than eight years to make it to the presidency - by which time thousands had died and the country lay in ruins.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-17845592

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The defense for Liberian warlord Charles Taylor said today the war crimes trial was politically motivated "neocolonialism" and asked why Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi does not face a similar court.

"This was a court, ostensibly and publicly, set up, we are told, to try those who bear the greatest responsibility," Taylor's lead counsel Courtenay Griffiths told the court in his closing arguments. "So why is Colonel Moammar Gadhafi not in the dock?"

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/charles-taylor-defense-gadhafi-trial-war-crimes/story?id=13094284

See MUUR [Big Grin] :

https://www.google.ca/search?q=charles+taylor+calls+gadafi&oq=charles+taylor+calls+gadafi&aqs=chrome..69i57.15728j0j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

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Fool, any defence lawyers in any case can ask any set of BS questions. Do you have a brain or not? I am just getting tired of your arrant stupidities. Grow a new brain and stay off the leaves and leave the pink ladies alone.

The RUF got their arms and ideology from right inside Sierra Leone. The jackass will never know that. Now run off and smoke some leaves. LOL. Always the dumb-arsed MUUR to peddle useless nonsense.

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Charles Taylor, Qaddafi goon, found guilty of war crimes in Sierra Leone

Charles Taylor, former president of Liberia was found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Sierra Leone by the Special Court established jointly the United Nations and the government of Sierra Leone today.

When the trial first started, many demanded that Mummar Qaddafi stand trial for these crimes along side of Charles Taylor because Taylor and his band were trained in Libya and his campaign of terror was backed and financed by Qaddafi. What Taylor did was just one part of a larger criminal enterprise carried out in West Africa that created turmoil in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Burkina Faso, Guinea and Côte d'Ivoire, and was organized and funded by Mummar Gaddafi in Libya.

The NY Times reported on the verdict this morning:

THE HAGUE — Charles G. Taylor, the former president of Liberia and once a powerful warlord, was convicted by an international tribunal on Thursday of 11 counts of planning, aiding and abetting war crimes committed in Sierra Leone during that country’s civil war in the 1990s. He is the first head of state to be convicted by an international court since the Nuremberg trials after World War II.
The ruling, announced by Presiding Judge Richard Lussick of Samoa, said Mr. Taylor was guilty of involvement in crimes against humanity and war crimes including murder, rape, slavery and the use of child soldiers. The court, however, said the prosecution failed to prove that Mr. Taylor had direct command responsibility for the atrocities in the indictment.

The story is all over the news now. You'll find an Al Jazeera YouTube video, a link to the diary that broke the story on the Daily Kos and more about the Qaddafi connection below the fold.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/26/1086537/-Charles-Taylor-Qaddafi-goon-found-guilty-of-war-crimes-in-Sierra-Leone# Charles Taylor, Qaddafi goon, found guilty of war crimes in Sierra Leone

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Fool, any defence lawyers in any case can ask any set of BS questions. Do you have a brain or not? I am just getting tired of your arrant stupidities. Grow a new brain and stay off the leaves and leave the pink ladies alone.

The RUF got their arms and ideology from right inside Sierra Leone. The jackass will never know that. Now run off and smoke some leaves. LOL. Always the dumb-arsed MUUR to peddle useless nonsense.

Honey,

Smell the coffee..

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By Ramata Soré

On March 9 and 11, in Leidschendam near The Hague (Netherlands), the trial against Charles Taylor came to close. Taylor has been accused for allegedly arming and supporting Sierra Leonean rebels during the country’s civil war.

This trial has lasted about three years. This paper summurizes the minutes of the trial’s closing arguments. The Court’s sentence about the case will be made before the end of this year.

During the trial, Prosecutor Nicholas Koumjian told the judges that leaders such as Muammar Gaddafi and Blaise Compaoré of Burkina Faso had also supported the RUF, but it remained “a proxy army under one person, Charles Taylor.” But, Gaddafi, Compaoré, “helped build that web [of the crimes in Sierra Leone] and they helped maintain that web through Charles Taylor. The international community did not go to Gaddafi, did not go to Blaise Compaoré; they went to Charles Taylor, because he’s the one who had control over the leaders of these groups that were perpetuating such horrific crimes.”

According to Koumjian, “the involvement of Muammar Gaddafi and Blaise Compaoré has been proven… certainly there is evidence that these individuals or the governments that they headed aided the RUF.”


... Koumjian said, “the arms and ammunition came from either Burkina Faso or Libya.”

Also he mentioned the fact that the defense cited the UN panel report, in relation to General Diendéré from Burkina Faso, “who signed the end user certificate for shipment of arms to Burkina Faso in February 1999.”

Also, the prosecution said that based on evidence from the UN panel of experts, the March 1999 shipment was Ukrainian arms routed through Burkina Faso. This fact was confirmed by a testimony of a witness who was present on that delivery of arms from Burkina Faso to Liberia.

“This was a court, ostensibly and publicly, set up, we are told, to try those who bear the greatest responsibility. So why is Colonel Muammar Gaddafi not in the dock?” Courtenay Griffiths, Taylor’s lawyer said.

During his statement, Griffiths insisted on the fact that Ghaddafi is one of the key people by whom the war strengthened in Sierra Leone.

He mentioned a handwritten letter dated the 4th of December. It’s from Corporal Foday Sankoh, leader of the RUF to brother Mohammed Talibi, People’s Bureau of Libyan Arab People’s Jamahiriya, Accra, Ghana. In this letter Sankoh wrote that the officials of Burkina Faso “really have not shown any keen interest in assisting us as a movement. I even had conversation with Commandant Diendéré these few days but with no positive results. I would therefore suggest that you prepare a letter for me to meet President Compaoré on this issue, as we never received anything from them, and even my delegates at Ouagadougou have returned ever since to my location here. Please advise on this issue.”

To Griffiths, justice should be applied equally to all, “whether you are a princess or a prostitute, whether you are the president of the United States or the President of Liberia, the law is above you that should be the guiding principle.”

Griffiths called the trial against his client Taylor a “selective prosecution […] politically motivated.”

Griffiths stressed the fact that David Crane, the first prosecutor at the UN-backed SCSL, said Muammar Gaddafi was responsible for the conflicts in West Africa.

http://thomassankara.net/spip.php?article1055&lang=fr



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Honey

Are you still there??? MUURZ!

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That same year, I traveled to Burkina Faso, where Qaddafi had flown to celebrate the seizure of power by a charismatic young army captain, Thomas Sankara, who he clearly saw as a promising understudy.

They met at a military base near the border with Ghana. From there, Sankara's comrade, Blaise Compaoré had recently rallied paratroopers to free Sankara from detention and install him as president.

When I showed up, Qaddafi, surrounded by his famous all female bodyguard corps, angrily objected to my presence and demanded that Sankara not allow an American to ride with the motorcade for their triumphal, flag-waving trip to the capital, Ouagadougou. Sankara, who already knew me well, insisted on my presence. Four years later, he would be dead, murdered by Compaoré, it is widely believed, with Qaddafi's encouragement.

The Libyan's determination to eliminate his erstwhile protégé had nothing to do with me, of course. Most signs point instead to Sankara's refusal to acquiesce in a much bigger decision: to sponsor an invasion of Liberia by Charles Taylor, a leader who is now before the Hague on war crime charges related to his instigation of what would go on to become one of Africa's most horrific conflicts.

Taylor, a kindred megalomaniac, who was trained and financed by Libya, invaded Liberia in 1989. A few years later, I would cover that war for The New York Times as well, watching the rebel leader ride one of the first mass deployments of child soldiers into power.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/03/how-qaddafi-reshaped-africa/71861/



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Who killed Tomas Sankara?

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MOMO: My boss told me to approach Sankara for help in taking power in Liberia. In return, he offered lucrative business opportunities. Thomas Sankara told him he was not interested and asked him to leave the country. He told him that he would not help and asked him to find another staging point for his rebellion. Guengere, who is currently Burkina Faso’s minister of defence, Blaise Compaoré, Charles Taylor, and Chad’s current president … you know who he is?

SILVESTRO: Yes.

MOMO: Yes, him too.

SILVESTRO: Yes.

MOMO: They all met in Mauritania for a whole day … after a while they were joined by a white man from Paris. The discussions carried on, and then there was another meeting in Libya, where the Sankara problem was discussed some more. What emerged was that if we were to use Burkina Faso as a launching pad, Sankara had to be eliminated. Blaise Compaoré, would become president, and he would help us…

SILVESTRO: And was Gaddafi okay with the plan?

MOMO: Yes, yes … please remember, this must all remain confidential.

SILVESTRO: Yes, yes…

MOMO: If Gaddafi helped Taylor, and France sent word that they were in support of the coup d’état … better yet, if France provided funds and indicated that they would recognise Compaoré’s government, then all was well. Blaise told Guengere, the current Burkinabe army chief to avail a group of commandos, Taylor provided other troops, and the coup was staged.

http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/features/58463


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quote:
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King,
You know nothing about the war in Sierra Leone. Don't be put off by the stuoide chatter of a dissolute leaves smoker wo one day never set foot in Africa.

The wars in Liberia and Sierra Leone with the CIA sponsored coup against Tolbert in Liberia. At that time the CIA had the biggest tracking station in Africa in Liberia at that time. Why? Because Tolbert let loose some chatter about Pan African cooperation just after the OAU held its conference there. The coup was led my the near illiterate Samuel Doe who was ushered in and recognised by the U.S. as the new President of Liberia. Before that 13 members of Tolbert's government regime[mainly of the Americo-Liberian group[called "Congos" in Liberia] were executed at South Beach, Monrovia. The U.S. government then went ahead to recognise Doe's government.


Doe's reign was ruinous and very corrupt. This led to a number of attempted coups and rebellions. Charles Taylor was a U.S. educated member of Doe's government who was eventually dismissed for embezzlement of $1 million. Taylor fled to the U.S. where he was arrested on an extradition charge.

But Doe's rule was so corrupt and violent that the U.S. quietly figured that Taylor could be their new puppet in Liberia. He was allowed to escape from prison and flew to Ivory Coast where he was supported by long-term U.S. ally and friend Houphouet Boigny--on U.S. promptings.

Taylor then mounted a war against Doe with support from prominent Liberians including the current President of Liberia, Nobel Prize winner, Helen Johnson-Sirleaf, and very close friend and ally of the U.S.

In the civil war that ensued Doe was eventually caught and tortured to death. Elections were held to stop the war and Taylor won. He was still being supported by Helen Sirleaf Johnson. The U.S. recognised the Taylor regime.

The war in Sierra Leone began in Eastern Sierra Leone and a chronology of events according to reports show that there is no mention of Libya being involved in the war and political events that took place from 1991 to 2002. The countries playing roles in the war are the U.S.[ following its secret release of Taylor], Nigeria, South Africa, Britain, Canada, Britain, and others.

The atrocities committed by the crazy, drug riddled RUF were of their OWN independent volition.

The point is that nowhere in the reliable Africa Confidential document and the BBC[they lie and distort for the British government when necessary] is there any mention of Libya.

Libya's foreign policy at the time was to counter American and French imperialism and neocolonialism at the time. Both Liberia and Chad were areas where both Western nations were involved.

Charles once traveled to Libya for so-called "training in guerrilla warfare"--but the details on that are fuzzy. For many years the West has claimed that the Lockerbie air disaster was mounted by Libya. But the vile West knew all along that it was Iran--but pinned the blame on Libya.

But the U.S. and its puppet government Canada are heavily involved in the wicked NATO destruction of Libya and their on-going wicked efforts to destroy Syria. Now they are pushing for war against Russia. What are they but fomentors of despicable crimes against humanity--under colour of BS talk about democracy.

The silly chatter by the leaves-smoker is just meant to distract from the posted issue. It should be obvious that anyone who talks stupidly about "Muurs" and supports a stupid cult whose main activities in life are laze around drugged out on leaves and to run degradingly after pale/pink females should not be taken seriously at all. What you have here is a dizzy and confused fantasist mouthing off on matters it/he/she knows almost zero about.

http://www.africa-confidential.com/special-report/id/4/Chronology_of_Sierra_Leone

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-13732188

Lamin please post more because the forum needs to know both sides of what You and Ironlion are posting.

I have always thought that Africa is being forced to be docile like a sleeping lion by the west and they have done what ever they could to kill those who believe in African upliftment, Africans helping Africans, Africans using there own resources to uplift all countries. Africans building and not destroying.

I don't find it odd that these stories about gaddafi comes out after the fact of him being in a civil war and not when he was kissing white ass.

What I want to know is why these murders are targeting Syria now as if that was the worse regime in the Middle east when Saudi Arabia is a bastion of evil that kills at whim and oppresses there people to the point that they have the Highest rate of homosexuality in the middle east.

Syria is the last bastion of Christians in the middle east...why attack them if all these people are bible thumpers????

Also MANY ORGANIZATIONS IN AMERICA AND CANADA WOULD BE OUT OF MONEY IF AFRICANS SUPPORTED EACHOTHER AND GAVE FOOD TO EACHOTHER. Basically African consciousness is something they don't want to see because an Independent Africa, Is A Leading Lion and THEE LEADER on the world stage.

When will these corrupt leaders learn.

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Here's this dumb jackass using testimony from a bunch of corrupt lawyers desperately trying to save the degenerate and corrupt Charles Taylor.

Who is Charles Taylor but America's man for Liberia. The U.S. let him out of jail so that he return to Liberia to cause havoc.

The stupid fool does not understand that you do not rely on testimony from paid lawyers to understand a case.

Point is that if MG was central in the atrocities of the RUF in SL then the ICC would have indicted him. The Court has indicted Bashir from oil-rich Sudan, a friend of the U.S. and Saudi Arabia. The Court has also indicted 2 U.S. puppets in the likes of Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto for crimes against humanity. The Court has just sentenced Congolese Germaine Katanga for crimes against humanity.

And just at almost the same time a French court found Rwandan Pascal Simbikangwa guilty for crimes against humanity during the Rwandan Civil War.

Paul Kagame, a U.S. puppet and darling and now President of Rwanda has been cited by the ICC for serious war crimes especially in the post-war period in the Congo. His time is coming soon.

Point is that the given that the U.S. and the West had already used trumped-up charges against MG for the Lockerbie air-bombing--they had all the leeway to get him indicted by the ICC. It didn't and couldn't happen at all.

But those paid-off lawyers grabbing at straws to save the sorry arse of U.S. stooge Charles Taylor pose some dumb and asinine questions to Charles Taylor hoping for some diversionary points. BS lawyers will ask BS questions all the time. Charles Taylor and Foday Sankoh, the scum of the African earth, all acted independently and committed the crimes they did of their own free accord. The funded their wars with money from smuggled gold, diamonds, and timber. What else?

And the jackass leaves-taker falls for that ruse--as you would expect from a low IQ degenerate whose only vision of this world is the ridiculous and LOL "Muurs". What a dim-wattaged specimen.

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Gaddhafi Libya's last Jew who gave away Africa's money to the Rothschilds:

The Rothschild Connection

"Rothschild has been linked to the son of former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi. In 2009, Saif threw his 37th birthday party at the Splendid Hotel in Bečići Montenegro where the guests were rumored to include Arcelor Mittal CEO Lakshmi Mittal, gold magnate Peter Munk, as well as Oleg Deripaska and Nathaniel Rothschild."

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Saif Gaddafi, left, son of Libya's leader Muammar Gaddafi and friend of Nat Rothschild talks to Oleg Deripaska at an exhibit of Libyan art in Moscow, 28 June 2010. Why has the Gaddafi family invested billions of dollars with Zionists such as Rothschild and Deripaska? -

If we follow the money we find that Gaddafi, said to be "Libya's last Jew", is a close business partner with the biggest Jewish/Israeli oligarchs of Russia and Europe. These odd connections may explain Vladimir Putin's criticism of the allied military intervention against the Madman of Tripoli, calling it a "crusade" to defend the people of Libya from Gaddafi's guns. Putin is a close friend of Oleg Deripaska, owner of RusAl, the metal giant in which Gaddafi is invested. Why would an Arab leader, who claims to be an anti-Zionist, invest billions of dollars in Zionist-owned companies?

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Qaddafi the Jew, the Rothschilds & the Mossad

by Chris Bollyn

During a discussion on Israel Radio they just dropped this little tidbit. There is a Jew left in Libya. His name is Muammar Gadhafi. - “You won’t believe this…Gadhafi’s mother was Jewish”, 22 February 2011

Of his early life little is known, and even less is certain. He was born, it is said, in Sirte, a desert town, the son of a goatherd. Other versions suggest that his real father may have been French, and his mother Jewish.

- “Colonel Gaddafi is turning into a mellow megolamaniac” (comments), The Telegraph, 13 June 2009

Colonel Gaddafi’s close ties to the Rothschild family and the Mossad make complete sense when we consider the fact that he is a Jew, the son of a Jewish mother, according to a report aired on Israeli television. How much oil money has the brutal Libyan dictator secretly stashed away in Israeli banks?

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When an Arab journalist told me that Muammar Gaddafi was Jewish and that his mother’s relative lived in Israel and had been on Israeli television, I thought it must be some kind of joke. But it’s not. Here is the Israeli program in which his second cousin and another relative explain that the “Madman of Libya” is actually a Jew. According to the relatives’ testimony on this show, there is no question that Gaddafi is a Jew under Jewish – and Israeli law. Gaddafi’s Jewish blood explains his very close connection to the Rothschilds and their preferred intelligence agency – the Mossad. Now it all makes sense.
An Israeli television program in which Gaddafi’s Jewish roots are discussed, by his second cousin in Israel. “With a Jewish Grandma, and a Jewish Mother, Gaddafi may seek refuge in Israel”, according to Israel Insider.

The Israeli television program discusses Gaddafi’s Jewish mother and grandmother. This is how Israel Insider explains the connection:

Israel’s Channel 2 News last year interviewed two Israeli women of Libyan origin who claimed to be relatives of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Israel Today’s Ryan Jones reminds us.The older of the two interviewees, Guita Brown, claimed that she is Gaddafi’s second cousin: her grandmother was the sister of Gaddafi’s grandmother. The younger of the two women, Rachel Saada, Brown’s granddaughter , explained in more detail:

“The story goes that Gaddafi’s grandmother, a Jewess, was married to a Jewish man at first. But he treated her badly, so she ran away and married a Muslim sheikh. Their child was the mother of Gaddafi.”

While Gaddafi’s grandmother converted to Islam when she married the sheikh, according to Jewish religious law (and common sense), she was ethnically still Jewish. And that makes Gaddafi’s mother a Jewess. And if Gaddafi’s mother is a Jewess, what does that make Gaddafi?At that point in the news report, the anchor exclaimed, “So, the point is that Gaddafi doesn’t just have Jewish relatives, he is Jewish!”

That may come in handy. According to Israel’s Law of Return, anyone with a Jewish grandparent is entitled to become a citizen, no questions asked.
Gadaffi’s Ties To The Rothschilds

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, who is seen as the Libyan dictator’s most likely successor, was also a guest of billionaire financiers Jacob and Nat Rothschild at their Corfu villa where the Business Secretary stayed a week…days before it emerged that the Lockerbie bomber was to be freed.


The Qaddafi family is closely tied to and invested with the Rothschild family, which raises the question: Is Muammar Qaddafi, the brutal and mercurial Libyan dictator, working with Israel’s Mossad? The evidence suggests that he is.
We need to remember that the Mossad works hand-in-hand with the Rothschild family, which controls global mining and oil production operations. Libya has the largest proven reserves of oil in Africa and exports about 1.5 million barrels per day and has important refineries that supply essential petroleum products to Europe.
Let’s look at the evidence that Qaddafi is working with the Rothschild family and their intelligence agency, the Mossad.

First, Libya invested a reported $500 million into Allen Stanford’s money laundering operation that was exposed two years ago this month to be a scam in which some $8 billion disappeared. Stanford’s operation, based in Antigua and Houston, was one in which senior Mossadniks were both investors and recipients of investments from Allen Stanford. The Israeli venture capital funds which received millions of dollars from Stanford are all closely linked to the Mossad. Yair Shamir, the son of the infamous terrorist leader Yitzchak Shamir, was one of the investors in Stanford’s “bank” in Antigua.
Yair Shamir (inset), the son of the notorious Zionist terrorist Yitzchak Shamir, is chairman and managing partner of the Catalyst Fund, a Mossad venture capital fund that received tens of millions of dollars from the Allen Stanford money-laundering operation. Shamir was also an investor in the Stanford bank.

Qaddafi invested the $500 million in Stanford’s operation three weeks before the fund collapsed owing investors some $8 billion. The Stanford bank was reportedly a Mossad money-laundering operation funded with illegal drug profits. Libya, however, has never made a claim for the lost $500 million. Why would Qaddafi invest half a billion dollars in a Mossad-linked scam and not ask for the money back?Secondly, there is the Rothschild connection to Qaddafi, through his son Saif.

As the Daily Mail reported on February 24:

The friendship of oddball financier Nat Rothschild, 39, scion of one of Europe’s most distinguished Jewish families, with Colonel Gaddafi’s epicene son, Saif, is remarkable. Colonel Gaddafi confiscated all Jewish property in Libya when he came to power. All debts to Jews were cancelled and emigration legally prohibited. But in 2004 – the year Tony Blair befriended the Libyan madman – Gaddafi said he would discuss compensating Jews stripped of their possessions. It’s said Saif – who hoped to succeed his father – was behind these moves. A sop to Nat Rothschild?
Nat Rothschild works closely with the Qaddafi family.

Gadhafi Money Stashed in Rothschilds Banks

Nat Rothschild works closely with the Qaddafi family.

The Daily Telegraph published an article entitled “Gadhafi’s stolen billions stashed in London” that points out the Gadhafi family ties with the Rothschilds:

This was painfully revealed when Saif, a supposed friend of the West, spoke on Libyan television this week. Saif took the awkward manner of an international plutocrat, forced only by circumstances out of his usual exalted milieu of Blairs, Deripaskas, Mandelsons and Rothschilds, to address Libya’s “little people”…Swinging London is but one hub of Gadhafi Inc. – a useful networking site where the Rothschilds were able to point Saif Gadhafi to investment opportunities in marina complexes in Montenegro.

In a profile piece on Saif Gaddafi, The Observer provides more details about the Gaddafi family’s close ties to the Rothschild family:

Saif is an acquaintance of Lord Mandelson and met the former Labour minister at a Corfu villa [of Jacob Rothschild] the week before it was announced that the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, would be released from a Scottish prison. The two men met again when they were guests at Lord Rothschild’s mansion in Buckinghamshire.Rothschild’s son and heir, Nat, also a close friend of Mandelson, held a party in New York attended by Saif in 2008. Saif in turn invited Nat Rothschild to his 37th birthday party in Montenegro, where the financier is investing in a luxury resort.

Saif Gaddafi met with Lord Mandelson (left) and Jacob (4th Baron) Rothschild (center) at Rothschild’s villa in Corfu in August 2009, one week before it was announced that the “Lockerbie bomber” would be released from prison. Rothschild’s father (Victor, the 3rd Baron Rothschild) worked in British intelligence during World War II in disinformation and espionage. Victor is alleged to have been a Soviet spy, which led him to state in December 1986, “I am not, and never have been, a Soviet agent.”

Then there is the fact that Tony Blair serves as an adviser to Muammar Qaddafi. But who is Blair serving? It is well known that Blair is a Zionist-controlled politician who has sacrificed hundreds of British lives in the criminal fraud known as the “War on Terror”. The Daily Mail reported in July.

2010 that Blair had secret talks with Qaddafi in Tripoli
Tony Blair was flown to Libya for secret talks with Colonel Gaddafi just days after denying he was an adviser to the dictator. Mr Blair was ‘entertained as a brother’, a senior Libyan government source has revealed. He told the Daily Mail that the former prime minister had offered Gaddafi, with whom he is on first-name terms, ‘a great deal of invaluable advice’.

Tony Blair is just one of the many Zionist-controlled politicians who have embraced the madman of Tripoli. Silvio Berlusconi of Italy, for example, who is very close to Qaddafi, was given the “Distinguished Statesman Award” by the Anti-Defamation League of the B’nai B’rith in September 2003. If Qaddafi were really the terrorist behind Pan Am 103, would Berlusconi and all these other Zionist-controlled western leaders be allowed to embrace him as a friend?

Lastly, there is the claim made by Victor Ostrovsky in his books about the Mossad that Israeli agents based in Tripoli had sent messages that appeared to have been sent by Qaddafi’s government. These counterfeit messages were picked up by American intelligence and were used to build their case against Libya. If Mossad was running such sophisticated intelligence operations in Libya in the 1980s it is more than likely that their penetration of Qaddafi’s government had deepened in the 25 years since. The evidence strongly indicates that is the case.

SARAH IN TRIPOLI

The revolt and bloodshed in Libya will certainly lead to the end of the 42-year-old regime of Col. Muammar al-Gaddafi and his thugs. There is very little television footage coming from Libya, but the BBC Newhour program (of February 20) had an excellent telephone interview with a young Libyan woman named Sarah, in Tripoli. This is a very powerful and moving interview that helps one understand what is really happening in Libya. The interview with “Sarah in Tripoli” begins shortly after minute 26 and 30 seconds into the program. One can use the time button and begin listening at 26:30.The interview can be heard on the BBC World Service website here: www.bbc.co.uk

Gaddafi and Silvio Berlusconi of Italy are quite close. Libya has many investments in Italy, the Guardianreported, ”These include a stake of about 2% in Fiat, 7.5% of Juventus football club, a 2% stake in – and joint venture with – Italian aerospace and defence group Finmeccanica and 7.5% in UniCredit, the bank.”

Britain’s Tony Blair, who is controlled by Zionist money, was quite willing to embrace the madman of Libya – the same Arab tyrant who is said to have been behind the terror bombing over Lockerbie. How much sense does this make?

“You won’t believe this… Gadhafi’s mother was Jewish”, IsraelMatzav.blogspot.com, 22 February 2011

Facts on Libya: Oil and Gas, International Energy Agency, 21 February 2011

By Way of Deception: The Making and Unmaking of a Mossad Officer, by Victor Ostrovsky, St. Martin’s Press 1990 Who Really Controls Our Political Parties?, by Christopher Bollyn, Solving 9/11
“Lord Mandelson runs the country – from Corfu”, The Telegraph, 7 August 2009

“Mandy and the Lockerbie bomber and Another ‘coincidence’ in Corfu”, by Tim Shipman and Sam Greenhill, The Daily Mail, 18 August 2009
“Saif al-Islam Gaddafi: The new face of Libyan defiance”, by Jamie Doward, The Observer, guardian.co.uk, 26 February 2011

“Oddball banker’s friendship with Gaddafi’s son is remarkable,” by Ephraim Hardcastle, Daily Mail Online, 24 February 2011

“Allen Stanford: A Libyan Connection?” by Matthew Goldstein, Business Week, 30 March 2009

“Stanford International Bank became a new BCCI,” Geofinancial.blogspot.com, 25 July 2010

“Libya’s oil money has made it major world shareholder”, The Guardian, 21 February 2011
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The friendship of oddball financier Nat Rothschild, 39, scion of one of Europe’s most distinguished Jewish families, with Colonel Gaddafi’s epicene son, Saif, is remarkable.

Colonel Gaddafi confiscated all Jewish property in Libya when he came to power.

All debts to Jews were cancelled and emigration legally prohibited.

But in 2004 – the year Tony Blair befriended the Libyan madman – Gaddafi said he would discuss compensating Jews stripped of their possessions.
It’s said Saif – who hoped to succeed his father – was behind these moves.

A sop to Nat Rothschild?


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