we will discover that in Egypt a new sport art done by egyptian men with tourist women are coming to have nice holiday in Egypt Sharm or Hurgada.
Funny that no body , Police or Gov. or Hotel Manager does warnining the tourist
it looks like , they are working toghter.
Now in germany and Russian there is a blacklist about Egyption men who works with tourist.
this men are going to make egypt dieing because no body trust his self to stop them cheating money from tourist women and destroy thier life because they have good heart
an if somebody understand german language , you can read stories about how the egyption guy's destory the tourist are coming to have peacefull trip to egypt
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There should also be a list of names of the stupid old farts who fall for them.
I mean it is really a bezness and they make good money from it, so why blame them???
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quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari: There should also be a list of names of the stupid old farts who fall for them.
I mean it is really a bezness and they make good money from it, so why blame them???
ok, you mean you are intllegent , and happy with what you say
i can understand why people like you not geeting work and stay the day chating on the internet and may support other cells to cheat people
try to understand that this women not like the egyptian women, they want have chance to live may in Egypt because they love the egyptian people and the sun and what do the egyptian just use them.
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bezness is a special word for ppl who cannot spell English correctly. So is bisnas Posts: 2735 | From: my desk | Registered: Jul 2005
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Ok sorry 'bout that...just having fun with ya.
Anyways...
The country is Egypt and although the men are snakes they are Egyptians therefore it's THEIR country so it's up to the foreign women to be more cautious or else find another vacation spot. Yes, the men are charming but if a woman seriously thinks that a man will fall in love with her within hours of knowing her..she's a fool. Or if a 40-50 yr old woman seriously believes a 20 something stud muffin is attracted to her she needs to have her head checked. I don't have a hell of a lot of pity for these women. Sorry.
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For the Egyptian or Turk to be familiar with Russian language just says that there is some great longterm contact taking place.
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Oh yeah I'd be pissed if someone stole my bag. But for the most part these women willingly hand over their money to these men. Yeah they're duped into it but it's still done by free will. Do I think it sucks?...hell yeah I think it sucks.
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quote:Originally posted by Madame M.: Don't you mean "bisnas"?
The word is a combination of the German word for "relationship" - Beziehung - with the English word "business", so it makes perfect sense.
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quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari: There should also be a list of names of the stupid old farts who fall for them.
I mean it is really a bezness and they make good money from it, so why blame them???
ok, you mean you are intllegent , and happy with what you say
i can understand why people like you not geeting work and stay the day chating on the internet and may support other cells to cheat people
try to understand that this women not like the egyptian women, they want have chance to live may in Egypt because they love the egyptian people and the sun and what do the egyptian just use them.
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You wouldn't notice sarcasm if it bit you in the ass would you?
And you understand why people like me not getting work?
No! I added this link for the sake of information. They have a blacklist as well, but, I think, a different policy regarding information and privacy since the German laws don't allow for personal information or pictures to be made public. I think it's a good source for people who want to find out whether they are being cheated on or not or to learn a bit about common tricks and such. But apart from that I personally don't find it very recommendable ... there's a lot of stereotyping and nationality- and religion-bashing going on.
I used to post there sometimes mostly in the Egyptian section but I got a lot of very aggressive responses for "painting a distorted picture of Egyptian men" and Egyptian society, "being blind to the facts" and stuff like that. I didn't like that and I haven't looked at this board in ages ...
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something is intersting too on this way of cheating tourist. that this guy's try now with men because i had heared the story about a man who offer the same way done with women to do a project in Sharm to open an Health club and he meaned that a very renatable ,but he needs some partner who can supply this project with money. After that they desapered behind the sun with the money
yes, you can be such a good person and help others one day your mind will change , and you begin with the first ruls said to me my father . but i did not belive him "Do trust any body, even me too"
quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari: There should also be a list of names of the stupid old farts who fall for them.
I mean it is really a bezness and they make good money from it, so why blame them???
I agree ( and it took me a long time to make my mind up on this ) but the root cause of the problem is the women that come and treat the tourists resorts like a supermarket for men. I think they both get what they want and nobody should be crying when it all goes wrong.
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Actually this problem is happening all over North Africa from Egypt throughout the Magrheb (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, and especially Morrocco)
Old European women are looking for North African escorts/giggolos/male-prostitutes.
I'm surprised that this kind of thing happens in so-called Muslim countries, but I guess religion matters little when you are poor and turned on to the 'big bucks'.
If that's the case then why cant these old European bags go to Eastern Europe where the people are so desperate even young teen boys are being sold by their parents to adult men!! At least the liasons would be uhh more acceptable.
Then again, maybe these European women have the 'exotic fetish' for "dark" North African men.
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The men are young, gorgeous and up for it. No wonder Western women see a Third World holiday as the gateway to casual sex - sometimes in exchange for cash. But as a new film highlights female sex tourism, Liz Hoggard asks who really pays the price Published: 09 July 2006
An attractive woman sips a cocktail under a bamboo shade. The sand is dazzlingly white, the sea aquamarine. A handsome young man approaches her and showers her with compliments: she is the most beautiful woman he has ever seen, he says. For the first time in years, she truly believes she is desirable.
But this holiday romance is not all it seems. The woman is white, in her late 50s; the man, black, 18 - and paid for his attentions. The scene - from the controversial new French film, Heading South, which opened this weekend, starring Charlotte Rampling, makes us confront uncomfortable truths about sexuality in a globalised world, and the legacy of colonialism.
In the film, an intelligent, provocative take on sex tourism in the late-1970s, Rampling plays Ellen, an American professor, who spends every summer at a private resort in Haiti, where beautiful, muscled black boys are available to the female clientele, mostly affluent single women in their forties, who despair of finding mates through more conventional means. "More than sex, they are seeking a tenderness that the world is refusing them," the film's director, Laurence Cantet, explains.
Fast-forward 30 years, and the reality of sex tourism is anything but tender. Today beach resorts in developing countries such as Kuta in Bali, Negril in Jamaica and Boca Chica and Sosua in the Dominican Republic have become Third World pick-up spots for women tourists. Tour companies even market package deals as sex holidays for single and unaccompanied women. Forget Shirley Valentine, these women - who range from grandmothers to teens - don't want a long-term relationship. And there's plenty of live flesh on sale.
Take Jamaica, where 17 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line. Hustling on the beach is the only way that some young men can feed themselves and their families. No wonder they choose older women who pay better than younger ones. InNegril, the men can earn $100 (£60) for sex with a female tourist, £90 for oral sex, which Jamaican men usually regard as taboo. Many others are hired as a guide to the island and throw in sexual services, often just for as meal or a place to sleep.
The definition of a sex tourist is an adult who travels in order to have legal consensual sexual relations with another adult, often for the exchange of money or presents. We still assume that a sex tourist will be male - indeed many regard the relationship between beach boy and female tourist as harmless fun. The woman gets guilt-free sex while keeping a firm hold on the purse strings. Where's the harm?
Jane, 67, a divorcee, has spent the past 10 years holidaying in West Africa. She loves the climate and the people - and she especially loves the men. "They are so wonderfully flattering. They make you feel like a real women. I don't mind paying for their drinks and meals if they stay the night." Divorced, with two grown-up sons, she explains, "White men my own age are so set in their ways; they just want another wife."
For others, this is exploitation pure and simple. Even where no money is exchanged, this sort of behaviour destabilises local communities and families. Ignorance and lack of concern about the abject poverty and lack of choice that characterises the men's lives leads the women to romanticise their actions. It is true that women sex tourists are still outnumbered by the legions of men who travel to Thailand and the Philippines for sex with prostitutes. Charities such as Amnesty and Unicef have no official policy on female sex tourism, preferring to focus on protecting trafficked women and children. Chris Beddoe, director of Ecpat UK, the children's rights organisation that campaigns against child sex tourism, believes: "If both adult partners are open and honest about what they're getting out of it, that's one thing. But it's another thing to continue the fantasy when there's a denial of the power that money brings to that relationship that creates a culture of dependency and exploitation.'
Nirpal Dhaliwal, author of the recent novel, Tourism (which satirises older white women turned on by young brown flesh), takes a tougher view. "Women enjoy casual sex and prostitution, too, but with far more hypocrisy. They help themselves to men in the developing world, kidding themselves that it's a 'holiday romance' that has nothing to do with the money they spend. Go to any Jamaican beach and you'll find handsome 'rent-a-dreads', who get by servicing Western women - lots from Britain. I've seen similar things in Goa."
Next month a new play, Sugar Mummies, about the pleasures and perils of sex tourism opens at London's Royal Court Theatre. Set in the Jamaican beach resort of Negril, it centres on a group of British and American women, seeking sun sea, sand ... and uninhibited sex with a handsome stranger. Sexually frank and often very funny, the play doesn't pull its punches. The playwright, Tanika Gupta, travelled to Jamaica to research the subject first-hand, and says she was shocked to find how female tourists objectify the black male body. "A lot of women talk about how 'big' black men are and how they can go all night. It becomes such a myth that even the men now use it. There is this terrible mutual delusion going on. And you do find yourself thinking, 'We're not a million miles from slavery.'" The older female tourists even confided to Gupta that although Jamaica was lovely and laid-back, the Dominican Republic and Cuba were "dirt cheap". "You can go as young as you want in Cuba," one woman boasted.
For all the talk of romance, the language of sex tourism is pretty basic. In Jamaica the men are called "beach boys" or "Rastatutes". The women are called milk bottles by the men - partly because of their ultra-white skin, partly because they are seen as vessels waiting to be filled.
Another myth the play explodes is that sex tourism is only perpetrated by white women. In Jamaica, Gupta met many black American women hiring beach boys. "They might be going back to their roots, or feeling more powerful because they had money, but they were still buying the same services."
In Bali, South-east Asia, Beddoes encountered wealthy Japanese women paying local boys for sex. The boys themselves claimed they found it less degrading because they saw the Japanese women as smaller and more childlike.
Gupta was inspired to write Sugar Mummies after reading the research by UK sociologists, Jacqueline Sanchez Taylor and Julia O'Connell into female sex tourism in the Caribbean. They decided to carry out their own research when they found that the usual analysis of sex tourism does not consider women as buyers of sexual services, because prostitute-users is seen as, by definition, male.
They interviewed 240 women holidaying in Negril, and two similar resorts in the Dominican Republic. Almost a third said they had engaged in sexual relationships with local men. Though 60 per cent admitted to certain "economic elements" to their liaisons, they did not perceive their sexual encounters as a prostitute-client transaction. Instead they insisted they were helping the men, and the local economy, by giving them money and gifts. When asked to describe "boyfriends", most emphasised how for them black Jamaican men possessed bodies of great sexual value. One 42 year-old English woman who travelled at least three times a year to Boca Chica in the Dominican Republic said: "I'm not naïve. I've been around the block. I come for sex - of course the sun, but mostly the sex. I'm not coming to live and set up house with a guy. I just want some fun and good sex."
"Female sex tourism is much more informal," says Sanchez Taylor, a lecturer in sociology at Leeds University. "It takes place in bars. There's no way for women to go into a brothel and say, 'I want a blow job.'
"Women who feel rejected by men in the West for being fatter and older -you know, 35, but they look 40 - find that in Jamaica all this is reversed," says Sanchez Taylor.
"There's a poetic lyricism to the gigolo's chat-up lines," agrees Gupta. "You very quickly understand why the women are buying this. On the first day, this baby aged 18 came to chat me up. At first I thought, this will be good for my play. But then he got a bit fast, so I suggested he move on to some younger women, And he said, 'Me no want the kitten, me want the cat.'"
The problem comes, she says, when the women start believing the men they have hooked up with are in love with them. "They confuse what is actually a financial transaction with real love. If you have low self-esteem, if you've not had much luck, if you're older ... you are likely to be more susceptible," says Gupta.
Some women even marry their boyfriends and take them home to the UK, although few relationships survive the cultural difference. Jamica's most famous holiday romance has recently come crashing down. Female tourism boomed after Terry McMillan's hit novel, How Stella Got Her Groove Back was made into a Hollywood film. The novel, in which Stella, a divorced black woman in her forties, takes a holiday to Jamaica, where she meets and falls in love with Winston, a local man half her age - was a fictionalised account of McMillan's own marriage to Jeremy Plummer, 23 years her junior. This year, McMillan, 53, filed for divorce, claiming that the marriage was based on a "fraud'' because Plummer lied about his sexual orientation and married her only to gain US citizenship. He denies it.
It is a nasty twist that the countries where this sort of tourism is most rife are ex-slave colonies. Many are still dealing with the fallout of colonialism. All the hotels, restaurants, cars and glass-bottomed boats in Negril are owned by Americans. The urban economy doesn't even belong to the local people.
Yet the women who sleep with the beach boys insist they are helping race relations. They flatter themselves they have gone native. "In my play there's a scene where a white woman is taking about how she loves R&B and reggae and what she calls hip and hop," says Gupta.
It is the female tourist who books the flights and determines the length of time she will spend with their boyfriend, as well as making day-to-day decisions when they are together, such as when and where they eat. One 21-year-old migrant from Haiti who had been working in Sosua, told Sanchez Taylor that he even had to "snog" his tourist client despite a bad toothache and a swollen face. If he did not, he would not be able to afford the antibiotics to cure it.
In Sugar Mummies, Gupta deliberately allows herself one relationship that might just work. "I'm not saying anything about mixed race relationships, I'm talking about these specific kinds of sex-tourist relationships where women go out there specifically to have sex. It will probably backfire and a whole load more women will go off to Jamaica."
'Sugar Mummies' opens at the Royal Court, London SW1 on 5 August (020-7565 5000)
No strings: 'I wanted to do sex like a man'
Lucy, a 23-year-old events organiser from London, visited St Lucia this year with a friend
The words "sex tourism" make me think of City boys who go to Thailand with their mates for seedy conquests to boast about. It's different for women. When they go abroad for sex, it's about wanting to feel special and escaping the boundaries at home.
My friend and I decided to treat ourselves to a stay in a luxury hotel in St Lucia for 10 days of pure pampering - and ideally a sexual encounter. This was the first time I'd gone on holiday explicitly with this intention. I was keen to find a St Lucian man as I'd heard they were very well endowed. I had my eye on Sandi from my first day. He was a local working in the cocktail bar, in his early thirties, and was very handsome, muscular and toned with the perfect six-pack. We spent several evenings drinking, chatting and flirting in the bar.
There are very strict rules at the hotel about staff and guests so I knew I had to make the first move. I told him I was going for a walk on the beach - and we spent our first night together. It was very romantic.
This was totally different from how I'd behave at home. In London, taking a man home with you, there's always the fear that friends might see you, not to mention potential dangers or the hassle of waking up in your flat with a stranger. But on holiday the boundaries shift and you can behave totally differently. You have a tan, you feel gorgeous, you're treated like royalty - and everything is available and easy.
Sandi and I had a great time. On his day off, he took us to a local street party. I paid for taxis, drinks and food. We needed his protection because St Lucian men had certain misconceptions about white women - although I probably wasn't helping.
When it came to leaving, I surprised myself by feeling quite gutted. I'd wanted to do sex without feelings, just like the men, but there was a definite trembling of the lips - for both of us. But as we flew home, my friend and I were very pleased with everything that had happened. I'm in a relationship at the moment but if I was single again I'd definitely go on that kind of holiday. Why not?
Around one in five British holidaymakers under the age of 25 is failing to practise safe sex while abroad, according to a study published this month by Trojan Condoms
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quote: "Women who feel rejected by men in the West for being fatter and older -you know, 35, but they look 40 - find that in Jamaica all this is reversed," says Sanchez Taylor.
quote: The problem comes, she says, when the women start believing the men they have hooked up with are in love with them. "They confuse what is actually a financial transaction with real love. If you have low self-esteem, if you've not had much luck, if you're older ... you are likely to be more susceptible," says Gupta.
Some women even marry their boyfriends and take them home to the UK, although few relationships survive the cultural difference. Jamica's most famous holiday romance has recently come crashing down. Female tourism boomed after Terry McMillan's hit novel, How Stella Got Her Groove Back was made into a Hollywood film. The novel, in which Stella, a divorced black woman in her forties, takes a holiday to Jamaica, where she meets and falls in love with Winston, a local man half her age - was a fictionalised account of McMillan's own marriage to Jeremy Plummer, 23 years her junior. This year, McMillan, 53, filed for divorce, claiming that the marriage was based on a "fraud'' because Plummer lied about his sexual orientation and married her only to gain US citizenship. He denies it.
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As a woman, I find that really disgusting. Do these old farts really have zero self respect and non-existent self respect ? Fun in the sun and a little holiday romance ? It is prostitution and in some cases pedophilia.
I am even more ashamed and dismayed that Egypt is now known as such a popular destination for the sex tourists. Luxor has been ruined by the old Brit bags and Hurghada is just one big brothel. I remember many warm nights sitting at outdoor cafes with Egyptian and European friends absolutely amazed at the parade of old, fat and terribly ugly women with young boys. We would sit there with our mouths on the ground in shock.
Don't these women realize they are in a Muslim country and don't they realize how ridiculous they look in skin tight clothing and hanging over children ? Young men DO NOT find old women attractive. They just find your money attractive.
Do you think for one second that if they had their own money they would even say hello to you ? Just like some of the most gorgeous exotic young girls I have seen in upper class clubs in Cairo with fat old ugly men. Do you really think they are enjoying themselves, especially when at the end of the night they know what they have to do to get their hands on the dollars.
Another things which greatly worries me is STD's and AIDS in a place like Hurghada. Prostitution is the main business there but it is not regulated. Nobody is required to take a regular Aids/STD test. A lot of the boys will sleep with males and females, there is intravenous drug use and I doubt many people are practising safe sex. Hurghada may seem like fun in the sun for a visiting sex tourist but be warned things are not always what they seem. That cute little beach boy declaring undying love may not be so cute behind closed doors and also may be giving you more than you bargained for.
To all tourists thinking of visiting Egypt, please practice responsible and conservational tourism. Help the local economy by eating in restaurants, buying souvenirs and going on tours. There is no need to make a public humiliation of yourselves by sleeping with the locals.
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Hi you wrote "Women who feel rejected by men in the West for being fatter and older"
the truth is that the western women have a problem . they got no friends and they are married and stay home all the time cleanning home etc.
they live alone and the men going to work and work the womwn have no place to take in the live of the men Ex :Germany
Now the sekts and Groups like Buda and indian way to live with holy buda and medition put the head of this wifes to shut down and lose thier mind , as i see in Germany. this Groups make the same like in Sharm .they are cheating this wifes .
Women are very fine they belive evrey thing can tell from trusted person. Yes Trusted person are this person can do good sex and the escape after
now i want to tell no body is perfekt. every one can be cheated or he was cheated one time in his life.
we must not protect this people who cheats and say the women have no head. Because we will have allways the same problem.
quote:Originally posted by DamselInDistress: As a woman, I find that really disgusting. Do these old farts really have zero self respect and non-existent self respect ? Fun in the sun and a little holiday romance ? It is prostitution and in some cases pedophilia.
I am even more ashamed and dismayed that Egypt is now known as such a popular destination for the sex tourists. Luxor has been ruined by the old Brit bags and Hurghada is just one big brothel. I remember many warm nights sitting at outdoor cafes with Egyptian and European friends absolutely amazed at the parade of old, fat and terribly ugly women with young boys. We would sit there with our mouths on the ground in shock.
Don't these women realize they are in a Muslim country and don't they realize how ridiculous they look in skin tight clothing and hanging over children ? Young men DO NOT find old women attractive. They just find your money attractive.
Do you think for one second that if they had their own money they would even say hello to you ? Just like some of the most gorgeous exotic young girls I have seen in upper class clubs in Cairo with fat old ugly men. Do you really think they are enjoying themselves, especially when at the end of the night they know what they have to do to get their hands on the dollars.
Another things which greatly worries me is STD's and AIDS in a place like Hurghada. Prostitution is the main business there but it is not regulated. Nobody is required to take a regular Aids/STD test. A lot of the boys will sleep with males and females, there is intravenous drug use and I doubt many people are practising safe sex. Hurghada may seem like fun in the sun for a visiting sex tourist but be warned things are not always what they seem. That cute little beach boy declaring undying love may not be so cute behind closed doors and also may be giving you more than you bargained for.
To all tourists thinking of visiting Egypt, please practice responsible and conservational tourism. Help the local economy by eating in restaurants, buying souvenirs and going on tours. There is no need to make a public humiliation of yourselves by sleeping with the locals.
This post is simply brilliant.
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good grief - thats a bit of a sweeping judgemental generalization isnt it?
so, all western women have a problem do they? They dont have any friends then? They all live alone then? And they stay at home cleaning all the time then?
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quote:Originally posted by DamselInDistress: As a woman, I find that really disgusting. Do these old farts really have zero self respect and non-existent self respect ? Fun in the sun and a little holiday romance ? It is prostitution and in some cases pedophilia.
I am even more ashamed and dismayed that Egypt is now known as such a popular destination for the sex tourists. Luxor has been ruined by the old Brit bags and Hurghada is just one big brothel. I remember many warm nights sitting at outdoor cafes with Egyptian and European friends absolutely amazed at the parade of old, fat and terribly ugly women with young boys. We would sit there with our mouths on the ground in shock.
Don't these women realize they are in a Muslim country and don't they realize how ridiculous they look in skin tight clothing and hanging over children ? Young men DO NOT find old women attractive. They just find your money attractive.
Do you think for one second that if they had their own money they would even say hello to you ? Just like some of the most gorgeous exotic young girls I have seen in upper class clubs in Cairo with fat old ugly men. Do you really think they are enjoying themselves, especially when at the end of the night they know what they have to do to get their hands on the dollars.
Another things which greatly worries me is STD's and AIDS in a place like Hurghada. Prostitution is the main business there but it is not regulated. Nobody is required to take a regular Aids/STD test. A lot of the boys will sleep with males and females, there is intravenous drug use and I doubt many people are practising safe sex. Hurghada may seem like fun in the sun for a visiting sex tourist but be warned things are not always what they seem. That cute little beach boy declaring undying love may not be so cute behind closed doors and also may be giving you more than you bargained for.
To all tourists thinking of visiting Egypt, please practice responsible and conservational tourism. Help the local economy by eating in restaurants, buying souvenirs and going on tours. There is no need to make a public humiliation of yourselves by sleeping with the locals.
This is extremely harsh but absolutely true and I say that as an older, fatter Brit who hails from Luxor.
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quote:Originally posted by Luxorlover: This is extremely harsh but absolutely true and I say that as an older, fatter Brit who hails from Luxor.
Hehe LL!
I've always wondered why the English of all Europeans are so titanic. A serious question wallahi!
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Well the French don't get fat but by God the English do. I came out to Luxor once on a charter flight and was seriously worried that it would not get off the ground. Could it be though that these are lonely women who do not have attention at home but are the centre of attention in Luxor - and they like it?
It is sad though that in their search for 'love' they get taken in by Luxor's lotharios. They may be daft for believing everything that they hear but they really do know deep inside themselves that it is all lies, they just choose to ignore it but that might be why they are so defensive when questioned about it.
quote:Originally posted by Luxorlover: Could it be though that these are lonely women who do not have attention at home but are the centre of attention in Luxor - and they like it?
Yes, true. Fat + white is the perfect recipe for many Egyptian men, especially those from rural areas.
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Egytian women in rural areas are pretty fat themselves. It must be all that sitting around with nothing to do. Posts: 2735 | From: my desk | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:Originally posted by DamselInDistress: As a woman, I find that really disgusting. Do these old farts really have zero self respect and non-existent self respect ? Fun in the sun and a little holiday romance ? It is prostitution and in some cases pedophilia.
I am even more ashamed and dismayed that Egypt is now known as such a popular destination for the sex tourists. Luxor has been ruined by the old Brit bags and Hurghada is just one big brothel. I remember many warm nights sitting at outdoor cafes with Egyptian and European friends absolutely amazed at the parade of old, fat and terribly ugly women with young boys. We would sit there with our mouths on the ground in shock.
Don't these women realize they are in a Muslim country and don't they realize how ridiculous they look in skin tight clothing and hanging over children ? Young men DO NOT find old women attractive. They just find your money attractive.
Do you think for one second that if they had their own money they would even say hello to you ? Just like some of the most gorgeous exotic young girls I have seen in upper class clubs in Cairo with fat old ugly men. Do you really think they are enjoying themselves, especially when at the end of the night they know what they have to do to get their hands on the dollars.
Another things which greatly worries me is STD's and AIDS in a place like Hurghada. Prostitution is the main business there but it is not regulated. Nobody is required to take a regular Aids/STD test. A lot of the boys will sleep with males and females, there is intravenous drug use and I doubt many people are practising safe sex. Hurghada may seem like fun in the sun for a visiting sex tourist but be warned things are not always what they seem. That cute little beach boy declaring undying love may not be so cute behind closed doors and also may be giving you more than you bargained for.
To all tourists thinking of visiting Egypt, please practice responsible and conservational tourism. Help the local economy by eating in restaurants, buying souvenirs and going on tours. There is no need to make a public humiliation of yourselves by sleeping with the locals.
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Tell that to the old inglish woman on this board they are deaf blind and come up wet "Oh no we love each other we wont to live oure life together" "a lot of men want to marry be in old England i'm not a sad old lady"
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so what we have learned from this thread is: 1.all english women are fat, lonely and rich 2.all egyptian men are lieing scoundrels 3.all egyption women are judgemental 4.American men are the gift of God.
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quote:Originally posted by mike rozier: so what we have learned from this thread is: 1.all english women are fat, lonely and rich 2.all egyptian men are lieing scoundrels 3.all egyption women are judgemental 4.American men are the gift of God.
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quote:Originally posted by mike rozier: so what we have learned from this thread is: 1.all english women are fat, lonely and rich 2.all egyptian men are lieing scoundrels 3.all egyption women are judgemental 4.American men are the gift of God.
5.egyption first sport cheaters (or shiters) each others . i prefer the second (****)
quote:Originally posted by mimi2: When we speak about bad guys in Egypt.
we will discover that in Egypt a new sport art done by egyptian men with tourist women are coming to have nice holiday in Egypt Sharm or Hurgada.
Funny that no body , Police or Gov. or Hotel Manager does warnining the tourist
it looks like , they are working toghter.
Now in germany and Russian there is a blacklist about Egyption men who works with tourist.
this men are going to make egypt dieing because no body trust his self to stop them cheating money from tourist women and destroy thier life because they have good heart
an if somebody understand german language , you can read stories about how the egyption guy's destory the tourist are coming to have peacefull trip to egypt
the guys are now noted , and i think the russian are going to do something bad to get this boys
i need people who like to do something to give nice egypt again the googd face and again and to help.
transfe@ccbgermany.de
thanks mimi
Hi there i agree with u in some points. the thing is that really not only men, but generally when seller, or taxi driver or anyone who see that u are a foreigner, they charge u 10 times more then the local, and especially if u don't speak the local language, u just can't bargin, or even if u do u will not be able to have the same prices and get the same attitude as locals..
but that is not like that only in egypt !!! i mean most of arab countries, and some othe rcountires too are like that... that is not the bad point. that is how they make business...
what concerns men/women relationships egytian men/and foreign girls...
i don't want t hurt anyone. i am not racist nor i don't know what. but really russians have a very bad reputation in egypt. and i guess that it is mostly their fault. i don't say 100% of them, but most of them.
i am armenian. i know the russian language the same was i know my mother language.. so i don't have problems with undertanding what russians speak.
once i were on the beach, and 2 russian girls were having a conversation which was like this:
"with who they can sleep, so that guy will pay for their hotel and fun, the other said, oh i am not enjooying this holiday at all, 3 days here , couldn't get anyone..., what a bore, and i spent already so much money"
and another similart thing happened in the disco.."discussing with her firend who is nice for having fun, and who will pay for their drink"
another thing like that happened with me in greece and cyprus, the same converstaions over and over again !!!!
so when there is a white, blonde girl in egypt, the first question the egyptian men asks "Russian?" in a VERYYY obvious way that, if u want i will sleep with u...
i don't know why, but that is how things happened....
so u can't say that egyptian men have bed reputation and they are doing all to sleep with those "poor girls"... if those girls didn't make any move which showed "come to me" those men woudln't even treat them like that...
of course the problem has always 2 sides...but at least the fist one who spoils the whole reputation is the girl....
Sorry if i offended anyone.. but that is from my personal experience..
i am not russian, am not blonde ... Posts: 311 | From: Armenia | Registered: Jul 2006
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So in Conclusion; young or old the root cause of the problem is the women so if we want things to change it is the hands of the women themselves.
So Khalas no more whining ladies please Posts: 3809 | From: Paradise | Registered: Mar 2003
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) but the root cause of the problem is the women that come and treat the tourists resorts like a supermarket for men. I think they both get what they want and nobody should be crying when it all goes wrong.
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