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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
The Americans posting here are typical red state Americans. You guys can't even get yourself to admit that sometimes in some decisions your country is wrong. Ohhh noooo, America is always right. I am Egyptian and 95% of the time I am against my government, when I see something wrong say it's wrong, but I sense that you guys just try to adapt the definition of "right" to fit whatever America does. Have fun doing that.

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Why aren't you against your "COUNTRY" Kimo, and just your "GOVERNMENT", The reason it may appear this way to you, is maybe because people like you, Gege, and Shareefa, have yet to learn to separate the American people from the American GOVERNMENT When you generally criticize the people, you are criticizing us, and we have a right to speak up for ourselves, just as anyone else.

If we made a lot of negative statements about the Egyptians in general I think you will feel the same (I've seen you defend Egyptians too many times on this board). And that's the issue, if you read the statements by every self proclaimed American on this topic, the only person standing up for this current administration is Horemheb, so now again you're generalizing "Americans posting" and frankly we're tired of defending ourselves.

Horemheb is the only one cheering for Bush's administration, no other Americans, STOP OVER GENERALIZING!

This is a recap of the statement made by Americans FOR YOUR BENEFIT!

1.Katrina "That beats me as well, Shareefa. I am disappointed in the results"

2.Sonomod "My I guess America has stepped up to the plate with a lost idiot from Texas"

3.Carleen "And try to keep in mind that 55,159,058 people stood for many hours in line, in every kind of weather condition possible, to NOT re-elect him."

4.Trixie "As one of the Americans that voted for Kerry, it makes me really sad to see notes from you saying that all American's should f--- off and whatnot. It's depressing enough that Bush won this election."

5.Ann "Dear Friends, Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. "

6.Andy "America is not perfect and we have never claimed to be"

7.nooralhaq "As an American let me first say that your question is insulting. As an American let me first say that your question is insulting"

8.Your's Truly "But what we can not appreciate are the negative generalizations you continuously make about American people (excluding our government). You can call Bush every name in the book, it would not bother me one bit"

You may even get some anti-war supportive dialogue if Americans didn't feel that they have to keep responding in DEFENSE mode.

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Originally posted by AnotherNewMember:
Why aren't you against your "COUNTRY" Kimo, and just your "GOVERNMENT", The reason it may appear this way to you, is maybe because people like you, Gege, and Shareefa, have yet to learn to separate the American people from the [b]American GOVERNMENT When you generally criticize the people, you are criticizing us, and we have a right to speak up for ourselves, just as anyone else.

If we made a lot of negative statements about the Egyptians in general I think you will feel the same (I've seen you defend Egyptians too many times on this board). And that's the issue, if you read the statements by every self proclaimed American on this topic, the only person standing up for this current administration is Horemheb, so now again you're generalizing "Americans posting" and frankly we're tired of defending ourselves.

Horemheb is the only one cheering for Bush's administration, no other Americans, STOP OVER GENERALIZING!

This is a recap of the statement made by Americans FOR YOUR BENEFIT!

1.Katrina "That beats me as well, Shareefa. I am disappointed in the results"

2.Sonomod "My I guess America has stepped up to the plate with a lost idiot from Texas"

3.Carleen "And try to keep in mind that 55,159,058 people stood for many hours in line, in every kind of weather condition possible, to NOT re-elect him."

4.Trixie "As one of the Americans that voted for Kerry, it makes me really sad to see notes from you saying that all American's should f--- off and whatnot. It's depressing enough that Bush won this election."

5.Ann "Dear Friends, Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. "

6.Andy "America is not perfect and we have never claimed to be"

7.nooralhaq "As an American let me first say that your question is insulting. As an American let me first say that your question is insulting"

8.Your's Truly "But what we can not appreciate are the negative generalizations you continuously make about American people (excluding our government). You can call Bush every name in the book, it would not bother me one bit"

You may even get some anti-war supportive dialogue if Americans didn't feel that they have to keep responding in DEFENSE mode.

[This message has been edited by AnotherNewMember (edited 19 November 2004).][/B]

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Actually, many great points, ANM. Well said.

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Originally posted by AnotherNewMember:
Why aren't you against your "COUNTRY" Kimo, and just your "GOVERNMENT", The reason it may appear this way to you, is maybe because people like you, Gege, and Shareefa, have yet to learn to separate the American people from the [b]American GOVERNMENT When you generally criticize the people, you are criticizing us, and we have a right to speak up for ourselves, just as anyone else.

If we made a lot of negative statements about the Egyptians in general I think you will feel the same (I've seen you defend Egyptians too many times on this board). And that's the issue, if you read the statements by every self proclaimed American on this topic, the only person standing up for this current administration is Horemheb, so now again you're generalizing "Americans posting" and frankly we're tired of defending ourselves.

Horemheb is the only one cheering for Bush's administration, no other Americans, STOP OVER GENERALIZING!

This is a recap of the statement made by Americans FOR YOUR BENEFIT!

1.Katrina "That beats me as well, Shareefa. I am disappointed in the results"

2.Sonomod "My I guess America has stepped up to the plate with a lost idiot from Texas"

3.Carleen "And try to keep in mind that 55,159,058 people stood for many hours in line, in every kind of weather condition possible, to NOT re-elect him."

4.Trixie "As one of the Americans that voted for Kerry, it makes me really sad to see notes from you saying that all American's should f--- off and whatnot. It's depressing enough that Bush won this election."

5.Ann "Dear Friends, Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. "

6.Andy "America is not perfect and we have never claimed to be"

7.nooralhaq "As an American let me first say that your question is insulting. As an American let me first say that your question is insulting"

8.Your's Truly "But what we can not appreciate are the negative generalizations you continuously make about American people (excluding our government). You can call Bush every name in the book, it would not bother me one bit"

You may even get some anti-war supportive dialogue if Americans didn't feel that they have to keep responding in DEFENSE mode.

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Oh dearie, read my first response to this post ANM, I never generalised all Americans. I live in America now and I know better (much better than to do that). The fact is, I didn't read the whole thread *blush* so just modify the phrase "Americans who post to this board" to "Hormoheb" and stop your paranoia.

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Originally posted by Horemheb:
Kimo...Most of us, including those in blue states, agree with US policy because we think it is correct and in the best interest of the Unites States.
As for Isreal it really doesn not matter who was there first. Isreal has the power and the Palestinans are going to have to take what they can get. That is just the way the world works. If they don't they will end up wwith nothing. All of the things you mantioned may be all they can get.
I'm sorry to say I'll be off the board for nine days for the Thanksgiving holiday. I want to wish all of the Americans here a happy thanksgiving, for those of you over seas have a great week.

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Originally posted by crazylobo:
. As long as they have cheap gas for their environment polluting SUV life is grand. But americans are also eating themselves to death... long live carbs!! Check out 'sorry everyone' on the web.

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Again your generalizing.

I for one have never had a driver's licence and never had a car. I ride the bus most every where.

And for carbs please. I know what Europeans eat. At least we don't have to eat horse to get red meat. Sorry to say this but we are veracous meat eaters before anything else.

Just ask some of my neighbors who won't let me in there place because I actually dare to offend nature by eating something other than a plant.

And the 'sorry everyone' website has been ignored. I think he put it up when he skipped his meds or was drunk. It really could be a great anti-war portal.

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Originally posted by nooralhaq:
Shareefa,
As an American let me first say that your question is insulting. I will assume it was a rhetorical question. There are many Americans who voted for Bush because of more domestic matters, not everything has to do with things overseas, there are many problems in our own country, and sometimes the decisions are difficult. Americans do their best, but it is always impossible to please all of the people all of the time. I hope you have a better chance at it in the UAE.
-Nooralhaq

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How quickly you have changed.

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Originally posted by sonomod:

How quickly you have changed.

Your ticket out of Dallas stop returning your Instant Messaging texts?

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Originally posted by nooralhaq:

Sonomod,
My views have never changed. By the way, what is your problem with me? I am from Dallas and have always lived in Dallas, I have never been out of the states. I met my husband here and married here. I don't quite understand your pointless posts or why the attack on my person but I guess it had something to do with the village girl comment? If you don't recall, it was not ME that made the comment, only it was ME who laughed about the wording the person saying it used. It had nothing to do with you and I do not know you (nor do I think I care to). I have friends who do not post on this forum and have asked questions on their behalf, however; in light of your psychic abilities into peoples' lives on this forum based on what you merely read, I might have to second guess that gesture in the future.
Good luck to you.

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you have no idea how transparent you are.

how can u say american has always been conservative, do u mean the majority?